In The Zone '98
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Ryan Garcia tests positive for banned PED Ostarine in VADA test following Devin Haney fight
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Knicksman20
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If you really know boxing then you'd have a good idea when Manny stopped juicing. Which is right before his last with with Juan Manuel Marquez. The irony is JMM was more than likely juicing himself & that contributed to him KO'ing Manny lol. I believe Manny hasn't been juicing since that fight
Some things never changed
Really know boxing? What did I type that was false?? If he stopped juicing before the last fight with JMM, then.where were all the knockouts. After Cotto he failed to finish Clottey, old man Mosley, punching bag Margarito, JMM(3rd fight), Bradley first fight. Alot of 12 round decisions for someone who was "juicing" and knocking out everybody. Where is the evidence that Manny juiced, aside from the jealous Mayweather clan and all his fans who followed suit to use it as an excuse?
Vargas was 25 when he got popped after the ODLH fight. Tito was 28 when he got caught heading into the Hopkins fight. Sugae Shane was 32 when he later admitted to using EPO for the DeLa Hoya rematch. RJJ was like 30 or 31 when his happened. I believe. I know the fight was Indy at Conseco Fieldhouse. Cant remember the exact date/year, though.
Knicksman20
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Do you even know how PEDS work lol? I’ll come back with a more thorough post about the KO’s but some build muscle & help with your strength but a lot of boxers use PEDS that increase your stamina, help cut weight easier ((which gets harder with age) & boost your recovery time which enables you to train more than a non doping fighter. MOST NORMAL boxers that age & move up lose some speed, stamina & their power drops off. Manny starting his career at Flyweight which is what, 105lbs can move all the way to 147 & not only hurt but can stop guys post 30? Use your brain bro. We’re in the doping era & you don’t gain more power/speed/stamina when you move up in weight post 30. And when he first was supposed to fight Mayweather, the major hold up was VADA blood testing. Manny & his team came up with every excuse in the book to avoid blood testing with excuses like a phobia of needles (Dude has tat’s lol) to only tests that require Irvine samples
Betting in general is stupid considering the cheating and fight fixing
Of course I know how PED's work, it is very well known. We know why PED's are used and what benefits that have, across all sports. Where is the evidenced he juiced, though? He never failed a test. Why cant he just be exceptional? Speed and stamina, ok, fine. He did not maintain his power. He was winning mostly decision after decision from Diaz to the end of his career. 3 of them were accumulative stoppages(Diaz, ODLH, Cotto) . Only Hatton got steamrolled and definitely KOed. His style was perfect for Pacquiao to shine against. Although Manny has the most drastic weight gain, many other fighters moved up and kept some of their best qualities when doing so. Did Tommy Hearns lose any power or speed moving up from 147-190? Did SRL lose any speed when he went up from 147 to middleweight, super middleweight and LHW? What speed did Floyd lose moving up? He was still lightning fast at 154. Roy Jones entered boxing at 154 and was knocking out LHWs. ODLH was 130 and was knocking out guys all the way up to JMW..what speed and power did he lose? He didnt lose that til he went to 160..Pacman fought a fight at 152 vs Margarito, where he waa underweight. In that fight, he took his body to the precipice. Receiving body shots that had him in the fetal position days after the fight. You are leaving out key elements of the blood testing saga He was superstitious because he felt that it weakened for the first Morales fight which was the last fight he lost at the time. Floyd used that whole drug testing to avoid the fight. He also agreed to do it to a certain point. Youre speculating. His power did decline.
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I think manny one of the most exciting fighters ever and even took some of his tricks and entrys because I also was a undersized quick dude. But naw aint no way you go from 100 lbs to 147 and still have comparable pop naturally. Its an almost inconceivable thing. Thats like Monster blowing up to 147 somehow then fighting Boots, and putting him on his ass.
come on now.
Im about to watch it now. Be back, shortly.
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Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach, is a blubbering idiot with pugilistic dementia. Why he would day what he said, is beyond me. But he has always been a moron. Cant believe he would throw Manny under the bus like that.
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The implications wild to think of
