Ryan Coogler set to make millions off of Sinners and retain rights after 25 years, scaring hollywood execs
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RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
The game is in his palms right now, proven he can make multiple genres and blockbusters. Plus, he's a straight-up film geek.
How the fukk are they scared when they signed his contract
How the fukk are they scared when they signed his contract
Pretty sure I am one of the few who does know.
also, I know for a fact, Ryan can raise 10 million in one month easy from the fans if he felt like it. The problem is Hollywood peeps are so traditional, they refuse to take a chance going indy.
You’re comparing a fukking animated film to a movie with special effects and high profile actors. Bro go take a seat. You’re doing your best to make sure none of us go watch your movie. And 25 years is basically the standard timeframe in which an exclusive license would revert back to a creator in copyright law.
you taking something very personal when I am saying he can and SHOULD get a better deal. Dude been on a legendary run. He can do it himself at this point.
If I can do it, how the hell can't he?
GET OUT was done for 4.5 million dollars!
hollywood production with special effects and expert cinematography.
- Domestic Gross: $176 million.
I don't understand why yall think everything is a neg instead of a push to greater success. Do you think Michael B Jordan would charge him 5 million for starring in the movie if he was the owner? It would probably just be 100k + points.
yall act like Friday was not a thing. A self funded film with tons of top players that came way under projected budgets and made a killing at the box office. There are models for this.
TLDR: Stop kneejerk thinking I am hating when i would be on the front lines pushing his campaign if he funded his films himself. I would invest 50k personally and another 100k from my company. I want hollywood megastars to get their cut NOW, not if they survive 25 years from now.
Even more hilarious the "fund it yourself" crowd doesn't understand the amount of tax breaks write offs a studio can get for making a movie that you as an individual or your little production company won't get when making a movie, not to mention bringing local jobs to the area as additional staff on movie sets.
I remember this one producer talking about opening his own studio and wanting to film in Houston. He went and tried to secure some tax breaks and funding from the city and they told him get the fukk out of here. He complained that they give big studios tax breaks and he worked on blah blah film and he know warner bros only paid blah blah blah to film in downtown houston for x amount of time and he said dude told him yeah cause all the extra's they put in the movie were from houston, all the medical staff they had on hand was from houston, all the catering they did was from local houston businesses, so in total that movie generated millions of dollars of income for the people of Houston. Then he asked him how much catering was his little 15 person studio going to order and how many extras was his little movie going to have and what was he paying and how much was he going to pay to have police and medical people on standby for emergencies. He said probably none and the dude asked him then what the fukk would we give you a tax break for and was trying to charge him 6 figures a day to let him film on 2 or 3 streets downtown at very specific times. Said he just walked away like "shyt harder than i thought it would be"
Kingofthereal
King of kings
Am I tripping or did they reboot that shyt again? Seem a trial with scarlet jonhanson in it
Nkrumah Was Right
Superstar
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
You're the guy who went on shark tank and got a deal? I thought you got ran off here when you said you wanted to cast or work with Mel Gibson?
murksiderock
Superstar
This fukking movie was fukking legit. Felt like every black person in Denver was in the theater tonight; easily one of the best movies I've seen in years!
The white media wanted a black film/filmmaker to fail
1/11
@franklinleonard
A tale of two movies:
Similar deal structures. Similar budgets.
One made $45M from 3300 screens, post pandemic, and won the weekend.
The other made $41M from 3600 screens pre-pandemic, and placed second.
And yet this is the coverage.
2/11
@franklinleonard
I actually think it’s really important to emphasize here that this isn’t about a single reporter, in this case @brooksbarnesNYT (though he’s catching the hell for it.) He didn’t write the first article and can’t be held accountable for it, though the New York Times certainly can be.
3/11
@franklinleonard
The point, since it’s Twitter and it needs to be made directly, is that the narrative and media context in which these two movies exist is DEEPLY biased, which redounds aggressively to the ways in which similar films and filmmakers will be valued in the future.
4/11
@franklinleonard
Some of y’all are the absolute worst. This isn’t about Quentin Tarantino either. I actually think Once Upon A Time in Hollywood is his most emotionally satisfying work.
5/11
@LucaGuadagnegro
i would also argue that a post-pandemic success of this level is even more impressive… yet these publications would never allude to that
6/11
@franklinleonard
7/11
@Siggyv
41 million up against Lion King live action is pretty impressive tho for Once upon a time in Hollywood
8/11
@franklinleonard
So is $46M up against Minecraft, on 10% fewer theaters than OUATIH.
9/11
@NikMollov
Sinners a great movie but with limited international appeal. QT Brad Pitt Leo huge intl draws. OUTIH got almost 400 mill worldwide, sinners will be lucky to break 250, maybe even 200
10/11
@franklinleonard
Tell me more @NikMollov. Why do you believe it has “limited international appeal”?
11/11
@m95kl
black entertainment: "struggle"
white entertainment: "success"
It's been that way for so long now this isnt business talk its R'ism, we have the raw data now to show that people gravitate towards great stories!
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@franklinleonard
A tale of two movies:
Similar deal structures. Similar budgets.
One made $45M from 3300 screens, post pandemic, and won the weekend.
The other made $41M from 3600 screens pre-pandemic, and placed second.
And yet this is the coverage.
2/11
@franklinleonard
I actually think it’s really important to emphasize here that this isn’t about a single reporter, in this case @brooksbarnesNYT (though he’s catching the hell for it.) He didn’t write the first article and can’t be held accountable for it, though the New York Times certainly can be.
3/11
@franklinleonard
The point, since it’s Twitter and it needs to be made directly, is that the narrative and media context in which these two movies exist is DEEPLY biased, which redounds aggressively to the ways in which similar films and filmmakers will be valued in the future.
4/11
@franklinleonard
Some of y’all are the absolute worst. This isn’t about Quentin Tarantino either. I actually think Once Upon A Time in Hollywood is his most emotionally satisfying work.
5/11
@LucaGuadagnegro
i would also argue that a post-pandemic success of this level is even more impressive… yet these publications would never allude to that
6/11
@franklinleonard
7/11
@Siggyv
41 million up against Lion King live action is pretty impressive tho for Once upon a time in Hollywood
8/11
@franklinleonard
So is $46M up against Minecraft, on 10% fewer theaters than OUATIH.
9/11
@NikMollov
Sinners a great movie but with limited international appeal. QT Brad Pitt Leo huge intl draws. OUTIH got almost 400 mill worldwide, sinners will be lucky to break 250, maybe even 200
10/11
@franklinleonard
Tell me more @NikMollov. Why do you believe it has “limited international appeal”?
11/11
@m95kl
black entertainment: "struggle"
white entertainment: "success"
It's been that way for so long now this isnt business talk its R'ism, we have the raw data now to show that people gravitate towards great stories!
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1/11
@franklinleonard
I wonder if @variety covered Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - which made 10% less at the domestic box office on 10% more theaters prepandemic and at the same budget with a similar deal structure - in the same way.
[Quoted tweet]
"Sinners" has amassed $61 million in its global debut. It's a great result for an original, R-rated horror film, yet the Warner Bros. release has a $90 million price tag before global marketing expenses, so profitability remains a ways away. tinyurl.com/5crb5f83
2/11
@franklinleonard
Spoiler alert: They didn’t. Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious
3/11
@fullcastandcrew
Here’s how they covered it:
Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious
4/11
@franklinleonard
Thank you. Beat you by five minutes.
[Quoted tweet]
Spoiler alert: They didn’t. variety.com/2019/film/box-of…
5/11
@KoreyEakers
And LESS star power….
6/11
@franklinleonard
Who had, in all probability, less backend as well.
7/11
@nrizzolo17
Tarantino had years of box office success with original films and multiple Oscars under his belt by the time he made Once Upon a Time.
Most of Coogler’s success has come from established IP. Sinners is only his second original film and his first made just $20 million.
8/11
@franklinleonard
He didn’t have a ton of box office success: Once Upon a Time was his biggest ever domestic opening, aided by two of
the biggest movie stars in the world (and Sinners still beat it, POST pandemic.)
9/11
@levie
Confusing. It reads like the first headline they’ve written about a movie before.
10/11
@alibomaye
Likely not, because since Once Upon a Time there have been so many huge budget flops in recent yrs, the media realizes profitability is a big deal. Think of all the talk of how close Mufasa was to profitability. How far Snow White is. Mindsets have shifted since Once Upon
11/11
@BeauDemayo
They cannot stand black excellence
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@franklinleonard
I wonder if @variety covered Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - which made 10% less at the domestic box office on 10% more theaters prepandemic and at the same budget with a similar deal structure - in the same way.
[Quoted tweet]
"Sinners" has amassed $61 million in its global debut. It's a great result for an original, R-rated horror film, yet the Warner Bros. release has a $90 million price tag before global marketing expenses, so profitability remains a ways away. tinyurl.com/5crb5f83
2/11
@franklinleonard
Spoiler alert: They didn’t. Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious
3/11
@fullcastandcrew
Here’s how they covered it:
Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious
4/11
@franklinleonard
Thank you. Beat you by five minutes.
[Quoted tweet]
Spoiler alert: They didn’t. variety.com/2019/film/box-of…
5/11
@KoreyEakers
And LESS star power….
6/11
@franklinleonard
Who had, in all probability, less backend as well.
7/11
@nrizzolo17
Tarantino had years of box office success with original films and multiple Oscars under his belt by the time he made Once Upon a Time.
Most of Coogler’s success has come from established IP. Sinners is only his second original film and his first made just $20 million.
8/11
@franklinleonard
He didn’t have a ton of box office success: Once Upon a Time was his biggest ever domestic opening, aided by two of
the biggest movie stars in the world (and Sinners still beat it, POST pandemic.)
9/11
@levie
Confusing. It reads like the first headline they’ve written about a movie before.
10/11
@alibomaye
Likely not, because since Once Upon a Time there have been so many huge budget flops in recent yrs, the media realizes profitability is a big deal. Think of all the talk of how close Mufasa was to profitability. How far Snow White is. Mindsets have shifted since Once Upon
11/11
@BeauDemayo
They cannot stand black excellence
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1/4
@franklinleonard
So SINNERS made even more money ($48M!) than they were predicting that it did as recently as yesterday? You don't say. ‘Sinners’ Even More Divine With $48 Million No. 1 Opening At Easter Box Office – Monday Update
[Quoted tweet]
My guess, it’ll get revised up again.
2/4
@MikeIsaac
broken through now, word of mouth has to carry into second weekend — i think the intense financial critics are going to look silly (even before VoD)
3/4
@DerlisAGonzalez
I wonder if the articles saying it wasn't quite enough will be revised as well
4/4
@SteveCordero
I'm looking forward to the back-handed compliments in the trade papers & headlines when the movie becomes profitable
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@franklinleonard
So SINNERS made even more money ($48M!) than they were predicting that it did as recently as yesterday? You don't say. ‘Sinners’ Even More Divine With $48 Million No. 1 Opening At Easter Box Office – Monday Update
[Quoted tweet]
My guess, it’ll get revised up again.
2/4
@MikeIsaac
broken through now, word of mouth has to carry into second weekend — i think the intense financial critics are going to look silly (even before VoD)
3/4
@DerlisAGonzalez
I wonder if the articles saying it wasn't quite enough will be revised as well
4/4
@SteveCordero
I'm looking forward to the back-handed compliments in the trade papers & headlines when the movie becomes profitable
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