Ryan clark says russell wilson is not a all time great qb

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Some of you dudes are all over the place too. Some of yall using MVPs as a barometer, Brees never won one and is widely considered Top 6 with an argument as a Rushmore GOAT...

Some of yall acting like Russ need multiple rings but Marino still in most people Top 6 with ZERO...

Some of yall using All-Pros but have Aikman regular ass in your Top 15, but Russ having "only" one All-Pro isn't enough...

Bottom line, historical evaluation of QBs is based on more than one thing, it's a cumulative analysis. He doesn't have the strongest arm and he can go off-script too often but he makes winning plays way more often than not, is calm under pressure, and is an efficient passer...

The only 2010s QBs you're gonna put over Russ are guys guys widely viewed as Top 8 GOATs period--->Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers are better than all or most if the QBs to ever play PERIOD. Yall undervalue how fortunate we are to have seen football in this era, 2005+ is the most stacked generation(s) of elite quarterback play ever, saying he's "maybe only" the 5th best QB of his era isn't a demerit considering his career overlapped with historical heavyweights...

Drew Brees has a SuperBowl MVP. Dan Marino has a regular season MVP as well. It matters in the topic of viewing someone’s entire body of work. People are full of shyt if they sit here and act like they shouldn’t matter.

Nikkas on here have no problem using rings and MVP to justify why Jordan is better than Bron and comparing NBA greats, but it’s an issue when you use it in football as a barometer to Wilson legacy. Cats even always talk about how Steph Curry doesn’t have a Finals MVP, so it’s disingenuous to act like it shouldn’t be used in other sports.

You could make the valid argument that he is better Aikman, but again he has a Super Bowl MVP. Russ was rather mehhh those two SuperBowl performance wise and that fact doesn’t change.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Yeah and any all time great that played during Wilson's era accomplished at least one of those things I mentioned. He hasn't because he isn't on that level.

In another thread on here where you were hating on Curry, you basically said that a FMVP is a requirement to be an all time great in the NBA. But you have an issue with me asking for a regular season MVP or all pro selection here?

Nikkas on here be disingenuous as hell with no consistency when it comes to these type of situations. They use it in basketball and other sports with no issues, but football and Russ is where they make a stand

Watch they come with the bu….bu…but to try and justify their argument.

 

[duncanthetall]

Football discussion starting to get as bad as NBA discussion. Why even say this?

 

[Street Knowledge]

THIS IS LIKE SAYING NO
OTHER ALL TIME GREATS
PLAYED IN JORDANS PRIME
BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER
IN THE LEAGUE EVERY YR.

MAYBE OTHER ATG QBS
PLAYED DURING WILSONS ERA?

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All time greats play in every era

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Football discussion starting to get as bad as NBA discussion. Why even say this?

It generates clicks and content. Easy answer.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Some of you dudes are all over the place too. Some of yall using MVPs as a barometer, Brees never won one and is widely considered Top 6 with an argument as a Rushmore GOAT...

Some of yall acting like Russ need multiple rings but Marino still in most people Top 6 with ZERO...

Some of yall using All-Pros but have Aikman regular ass in your Top 15, but Russ having "only" one All-Pro isn't enough...

Bottom line, historical evaluation of QBs is based on more than one thing, it's a cumulative analysis. He doesn't have the strongest arm and he can go off-script too often but he makes winning plays way more often than not, is calm under pressure, and is an efficient passer...

The only 2010s QBs you're gonna put over Russ are guys guys widely viewed as Top 8 GOATs period--->Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers are better than all or most if the QBs to ever play PERIOD. Yall undervalue how fortunate we are to have seen football in this era, 2005+ is the most stacked generation(s) of elite quarterback play ever, saying he's "maybe only" the 5th best QB of his era isn't a demerit considering his career overlapped with historical heavyweights...

1.)Brees is the 4th best QB of his own time, he’s not some lock mt Rushmore top 6.

2.)Dan Marino was the best player in the league at his peak, Russ can’t say that.

 

[Big Boss]

When did Brees become a Rushmore GOAT

 

[Big Boss]

1.)Brees is the 4th best QB of his own time, he’s not some lock mt Rushmore top 6.

2.)Dan Marino was the best player in the league at his peak, Russ can’t say that.

Right Brady, Manning and Rodgers are above Brees

 

[Pressure]

Ben has 2 super bowl wins and never had a losing season

And neither he nor Russ have ever received an MVP vote.

 

[Pressure]

When did Brees become a Rushmore GOAT

@portcityplaya must have joined the conversation.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

And neither he nor Russ have ever received an MVP vote.

Ben isn't a top 15 QB of all time

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Ballgame

 

[South Paw]

Ben isn't a top 15 QB of all time

You know how many trash seasons Ben put up? Their numbers aren't close imo.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

You know how many trash seasons Ben put up? Their numbers aren't close imo.

Doesn't matter when neither of them are a top 15 QB of all time right now.

 

[South Paw]

Doesn't matter when neither of them are a top 15 QB of all time right now.

Fair enough but Ben chapter closed and Russ got a lot of career left and I'm sure will break many more records