Ryan clark says russell wilson is not a all time great qb

[NYC Rebel]

You want me to name playoff games won by QBs in the 1980’s when none of his Rbs reached 100 yards? Is that correct?

Yes.

Tell me SUCCESSFUL TEAMS that had zero 100 yard rushers for 32 straight games.

You're not even successful in the regular season playing under those conditions yet expect Marino to win vs. playoff teams in those conditions.

You can't talk your way out of this.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Yes.

Tell me SUCCESSFUL TEAMS that had zero 100 yard rushers for 32 straight games.

You're not even successful in the regular season playing under those conditions yet expect Marino to win vs. playoff teams in those conditions.

You can't talk your way out of this.

Easy

The drive
1981 nfc and AFC championship games.

All 3 playoff games won by starting qbs(Montana/Elway/Anderson ) without a Rb on their teams reaching 100 yards rushing

 

[NYC Rebel]

Easy

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I'm talking 32 straight games without a RB presence of a 100 yard rusher and having success and you bring up SINGLE GAMES?

You're not qualified to have this conversation.

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

Niggs have always hated on Russ. He does phenomenal with the pieces he has around him. A tactician that I know for sure would thrive to record setting numbers in a system like Sean Payton's in New Orleans.

 

[JYoung24]

He has the hardware and accolades. that Russ doesn’t though. That shyt matters even when he flames out when it matters the most and I’m not a Rodgers fan. Russ just isn’t in that tier and likely will never be.

With that being said, the media is being intentional with these type of conversations and we’re taking the bait. They want Russ out of Seattle and in a bigger media market especially since Rodgers likely isn’t leaving GB. That’s where the conversation is stemming from IMO.

Rodgers doesn't flame out in the playoffs check his individual playoff numbers

 

[Street Knowledge]

I'm talking 32 straight games without a RB presence of a 100 yard rusher and having success and you bring up SINGLE GAMES?

You're not qualified to have this conversation.

Ok so we established that it’s possible for a QB to win playoff games without a 100 yard rusher. Good to know

 

[NYC Rebel]

Ok so we established that it’s possible for a QB to win playoff games without a 100 yard rusher. Good to know

I didnt say a “playoff game.” Im looking at a body of games KNOWING that when you have zero threat at RB COMING INTO EVERY PLAYOFF GAME YOU PLAYED IN, you scheme to face a one dimensional pass only team which the Dolphins were.

 

[South Paw]

Rodgers doesn't flame out in the playoffs check his individual playoff numbers

Arod playoff record 11-9
Russ playoff record 9-7

 

[JYoung24]

All I know is Wilson has NEVER played with a great receiver or tight end at any stage in his career

Oline mediocre
Defense been mediocre post LOB

Metcalf is a great wr

 

[JYoung24]

Bro I didn't say I had a problem using accolades, I said there are guys in thus thread using them to shyt on Russ when guys without certain accomplishments they are ranking higher...

I just said whole body of work, at his best Russ has played like the best player in football. I can go back to his coming out party in 2015 when he ascended as an elite quarterback, up to his play the first half to most of 2020. He certainly isn't without flaw but his entire body of work validates his credibility as an All-Time great...





I said Brees is arguably Rushmore, not set in stone. I personally feel he's the 5th greatest QB ever---->for me it's Brady, Montana, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, with a healthy gap between Manning and Rodgers---->and most QB lists have him in the top 6-7 historically. So yes, he has a case you can make for him as #4 GOAT...

And Dan Marino is overrated as shyt, time has completely swept some of his worst performances and chokes away. He was Rodgers before Rodgers, a regular season assassin who routinely played substandard in the Second Season.



Even if he isn't it's debatable, there haven't been 20 quarterbacks to play the position better in the history of the NFL, and for that matter, there haven't been 20 greater than Wilson either...

So many of us are devaluing that we have grown up in and been able to see the NFL's Golden Age of quarterbacking. The post-2000 NFL has been flooded with All-Time QBs to an unprecedented degree the first 80 years of league history didn't reach...

We not doing that to Rodgers he usually balls in the playoffs even in losses

 

[Jplaya2023]

How much do we blame rigid ass pete carrol for the lack of success post LOB in Seattle? Wilson never receiving a single MVP vote is to me. How's that even possible?

 

[JYoung24]

1.)When was Russ the best player in football? I must have missed this. A 6 game stretch during the 2020 season?

2.)Brees is only “Arguably the 4th best QB” if you think there was no QB from 1920-2020 better than him except the ones from his time(Brady/Manning/Rodgers).

I’m sorry but that’s nonsense

U can make a case Russ was the best QB when I think Lamar or malhomes won MVP not saying he deserved mvp those years

 

[Street Knowledge]

I didnt say a “playoff game.” Im looking at a body of games KNOWING that when you have zero threat at RB COMING INTO EVERY PLAYOFF GAME YOU PLAYED IN, you scheme to face a one dimensional pass only team which the Dolphins were.

You implied lack of a 100 yard rusher was the reason for Marino’s horrible playoff record. I debunked that by showing you his peers winning playoff games without a 100 yard rusher in the playoffs and then you went on some tangent about 32 games when Marino never even played in 32 playoff games

Marino had a HOF coach ever game he played in the NFL and went to ONE Super Bowl. Those 2 coaches won a combined 4 super-bowls without him

 

[Street Knowledge]

U can make a case Russ was the best QB when I think Lamar or malhomes won MVP not saying he deserved mvp those years

You mean the year Mahomes threw 50 touchdowns and led the 3rd highest scoring offense in history? Or the year Lamar had a 113 passer rating, Threw 36 touchdowns, rusher for 1,200 yards and beat Russ head to head

 

[JYoung24]

Arod playoff record 11-9
Russ playoff record 9-7

Wins and losses in the playoffs is not a QB stat it definitely shouldn't be