Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Ukrainian officials had projected a more optimistic tone for the talks than on previous, fruitless occasions. Shortly before 5 p.m. local time Monday, Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian negotiator and presidential adviser said in a message posted on Twitter that the talks had taken a “technical pause” until Tuesday, adding: “Negotiations continue."

Meanwhile, in a letter to U.S. lawmakers, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will deliver a virtual joint address to Congress on Wednesday. “Congress, our country and the world are in awe of the people of Ukraine,” they wrote.
 

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Steve Jobs just used govt. Research and created the IPhone.

same will happen with space travel. I think musk and bezos are suing NASA so they can get more research so that they can make a profit for it.

when companies used taxpayer funding research or whatever to make a product and profit, shouldn’t taxpayers have an ownership stake at that company?

This applies to several industries, if not all. Healthcare should be free in the US because healthcare gains have been subsidized by tax dollars.



Back to the subject at hand,



Folks are trying to downplay Russia’s dissent but I really think Putin is on an island by himself.
 

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US tells allies China signalled openness to provide Russia with military support
Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington 31 minutes ago
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State department informs diplomats in Europe and Asia that Beijing reacted positively to request

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Jake Sullivan, US national security adviser, raised the issue during a meeting with Yang Jiechi, China’s top foreign policy official © AP
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The US has told allies that China signalled its willingness to provide military assistance to Russia to support its invasion of Ukraine, according to officials familiar with American diplomatic cables on the exchange.

The cables, which were sent by the US state department to allies in Europe and Asia, were not specific about the level or the timing of any assistance that may be provided.

The Financial Times reported on Sunday that Russia had made the request for assistance at some point after the start of the now three-week conflict.

The Russian request and Chinese response have sounded alarm bells in the White House. US officials believe China is trying to help Russia while its top officials publicly call for a diplomatic solution to the war.

The Chinese embassy in the US on Sunday said it had no knowledge of any Russian request or positive Chinese response to Moscow. Russia on Monday also denied making any request to China.

A senior US defence official declined to say if China had provided military support after Russia’s request, but said the Pentagon was watching the situation “very, very closely”.

“If China does choose to materially support Russia in this war, there will likely be consequences for China,” the defence official said.

The official added: “We have seen China basically give tacit approval to what Russia is doing by refusing to join sanctions, by blaming the west and the United States for assistance that we’re giving Ukraine [and] by claiming they wanted to see a peaceful outcome but essentially doing nothing to achieve it.”

Jake Sullivan, US national security adviser, discussed the request for military assistance in Rome on Monday in a meeting with Yang Jiechi, China’s top foreign policy official. The White House said Sullivan had raised a range of issues with Yang, including “substantial discussion of Russia’s war against Ukraine”.

Before departing Washington on Sunday, Sullivan said he would warn the Chinese not to attempt to “bail out” Russia, including helping it survive the tough sanctions from the west.

“We will ensure that neither China, nor anyone else, can compensate Russia for these losses,” Sullivan told NBC television on Sunday. “In terms of the specific means of doing that, again, I’m not going to lay all of that out in public, but we will communicate that privately to China.”

Ahead of the meeting between Sullivan and Yang, the Biden administration last week asked European allies to amplify their message to China that Beijing should not help Russia circumvent sanctions, according to one European official.

China has portrayed itself as a neutral actor despite its increasingly close ties to Moscow. But Chinese media and diplomats have offered support for Russia’s justification for the invasion and blamed the US and Nato for the conflict.

Chinese media have also repeated unsubstantiated Russian claims that the US helped Ukraine build biological weapons labs.

Beijing and Moscow have grown closer in recent years, largely due to their shared disdain for the US and western military alliances such as Nato. Last month, Chinese president Xi Jinping and Russian president Vladimir Putin signed a joint statement in Beijing that described their increasingly close partnership as having “no limits”.

Evan Medeiros, a China expert at Georgetown University and former top White House Asia adviser, said it would be “deeply worrisome” if China transferred weapons to Russia.

“It would be a game-changer for global geopolitics,” Medeiros added. “We risk going back to the days of the Sino-Soviet alliance of the 1950s. Ukraine may become the first proxy conflict in a new cold war.”

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from the look of it, ukraine might be able to hold off russia after all?

this invasion is making russia's military look really bad and the fact a lot of their citizens oppose the war is telling me that country isn't as united as we thought. this makes me think that china might not be as strong as they project as well.




None of them are. We are truly the worlds last superpower. Even when we faltered through 4 years of Trump, we are still miles ahead of everyone else.
 
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they've had skirmishes with India tho...idk how intense




Dude, you aint helping the India narrative about you.

If i was you, I would NEVER speak on anything even remotely connected to India :russ:



But with that being said, as far as I know, aren't the border skirmishes between India and China fought with no weapons?

Them boys just be out there slapping each other. They can't even kill each other cause both sides are scared to start a war. So they're literally out there having fistfights at the border.

The US would wash both countries at the same time:mjlol:
 

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Dude, you aint helping the India narrative about you.

If i was you, I would NEVER speak on anything even remotely connected to India :russ:



But with that being said, as far as I know, aren't the border skirmishes between India and China fought with no weapons?

Them boys just be out there slapping each other. They can't even kill each other cause both sides are scared to start a war. So they're literally out there having fistfights at the border.

The US would wash both countries at the same time:mjlol:
they are unarmed, but the chinese have beaten several indian soldiers to death
 
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