Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

I'm not assuming they do, my question was more along the lines of do you believe we have enough potential domestic sources available to alleviate the supply shortage and effect the price over time if enough smaller operations who just see an elevated price point and an opportunity to make a buck get back into production?

The industry has consolidated. In the US the shale/fracking companies are no different than OPEC. They control the market. Fracking is very expensive so it's not like you have thousands of small/independent producers. And even if you had new companies entering the space, it will be a couple years before any production comes online. If they wanted then absolutely they have enough production capability to lower prices - but again b/c it's a world market, if OPEC wants prices to remain higher than they can dial back production, or at least signal to the market they're heading that direction. But again, this entire discussion is almost moot bc the producers have outright said they are NOT going to adjust production upwards bc of Ukraine etc. A lot of them are dealing with the same supply chain issues everyone else is (especially w/ sand and certain chemicals used in process, labor and trucking/transportation) so for them it's much easier to just sit back and collect the cash.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Yours truly weighing in.

Still got that TV personality

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Mmaaaaaannnnn the US military alone (no nukes) will dog walk Russia’s army to oblivion.

Power difference is so great that I can imagine some Russia generals mutinying rather than carrying out orders to invade NATO itself if they thought it would trigger full-scale war.

USA military spending is about 8x higher than Russian military spending. On top of that, Russian military is designed to control/expand its borders and suppress belligerent states. They're an artillery-focused army, bombarding an inferior enemy from a distance, that needs roads and bridges to slowly move their forces anywhere.

If the Russians were trying to extend their forces to Germany or anywhere else away from Russian borders, the Americans would gain air superiority immediately and that's before you even factor in the rest of NATO. USA has 3x as many fighters and far more of the American fighters are newer and stealthed (unlike any Russian fighter outside of one that's not ready for deployment yet). Once the Americans controlled the skies then those slow-ass convoys would be fukked and Russian artillery would be useless. And American military is FAR more maneuverable on foreign soil - the Americans have ~3000 utility helicopters (mostly for transport) while the Russians have just 40. That's why the Russians right now have trouble moving from place to place and keep getting their paratroopers shot out of the sky, whereas American troops can deploy anywhere they want in a heartbeat.



The only way I imagine the Russians threatening NATO forces or countries right now is by just sending some cruise/ballistic missiles at symbolic targets and daring NATO to come and do something. Even that would be fukking insane, but it's more within the realm of possible insanity than any sort of direct engagement on NATO soil.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Yours truly weighing in.

When the juice speak you clowns better listen

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

#FAFO

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They about to get retired operators in the field

 

[88m3]

uh oh

 

[88m3]

They about to get retired operators in the field

peacekeeping is complicated

 

[MoneyTron]

This Indian man has the best analysis

Good analysis, but the US saying "Ukraine isn't joining NATO", one, wouldn't have made a difference if reclaiming Ukraine was always Putin's plan and two, its up to Ukraine to decide whether they are or aren't interested. There was no way anyone was going to flat out tell them no.

 

[The_Unchosen_One]

#FAFO

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[Able Archer 83]

They about to get retired operators in the field

"Retired"

 

[newarkhiphop]

 

[Able Archer 83]

To paraphrase Steve Spurrier, it's not our job to stop our intelligence services.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

uh oh

Russia is claiming it was an accident of ammunition exploding at a sugar factory. So it doesn't look like anyone is trying to turn this into any sort of big incident.

In the Kursk region, an explosion of ammunition occurred during the repair of a combat vehicle - Then24