Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

[Hood Critic]

Looking back did Putin have a legitimate concern or grievance with NATO and Ukraine being a NATO partner?

If the same happened to the USA wouldn't the USA have a problem with It?

This talking point has been debunked extensively in the last 72 hours.

1. If Russia's goal was to keep Ukraine out of NATO it wouldn't have annexed Crimea and it would have simply signed a neutrality agreement with Ukraine recognizing it's sovereignty.
2. Ukraine only wants to be a NATO member because of Russian aggression.

 

[phcitywarrior]

It's coming eventually but not because of the war.

What’s gonna spur it then? Curious about your take since you’re well versed in this.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[merklman]

If those are thermobaric weapons (it has to be verified that’s what they are before jumping to conclusions), I don’t see a scenario where NATO countries stay out of it. That’s some inhumane shyt

The US used thermobaric weapons in Afghanistan, why would NATO suddenly intervene?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Lord Jesus

 

[hashmander]

Does anyone get the feeling that China will come out the winner when this is all said and done?

don't people say that regardless of what happens. "oh the west just let russia take X ... china is the winner." "oh the west is too harsh with the sanctions on russia they'll be forced to go into the bosom of mama china."

to me russia getting canceled this quickly has to be a wakeup call to china.

 

[Arithmetic]

 

[FaygoMI]

This whole situation is so fascinating.

If China doesn't bail out Russia what a miscalculation.

I don't think Russia can control their people like China can. How long until they've had enough.

Hopefully Biden doesn't fukk this speech up tonight.

 

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[Hood Critic]

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Lord Jesus

Need to see footage of this

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is almost as much as were lost in Afghanistan (2,500) and almost half of Iraq War (4,500) in 5 days.

 

[Ozymandeas]

I disagree with nukes as being the most powerful geopolitical tool. Nukes haven't been used since 1945. They are a deterrent. Nothing more. No one even wants to use them because they are assured mutual destruction.

Unless you're telling me that you feel that Pakistan is a superpower. They have nuclear weapons too.

North Korea has nukes. Are they a superpower?

Then someone will probably tell me that the difference between them and russia is that Russia has logistical capabilities with their nuclear weapons.

So once North Korea improves their nuclear logistics, just like that, they're a superpower?

Really?

If North Korea gets 6,000 nuclear weapons, maybe they won’t be a superpower because they’re still a tiny country but they’ll be a major power. The West would have to stomach a lot more sh*t from them than they do now. But of course at some point it won’t matter anymore. If every country has nukes, no one has nukes.

 

[brandy]

Lord Jesus

I know Skeets will be proud.


I’m still waiting on US Intel to confirm their numbers. I think they are doing better than expected.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

I don't think Russia turning to China is any surprise. However, relying on them to prop up the Russian economy is a dobule edged sword, especially if Putin's goal is to create an independent Russian Empire.

The Chinese will definitely not consider Russia as equals in that scenario. Putin knows that. Which is why he's in deep shyt right now.

China will def be on some “if I prop you up what do I get in return?” You already know China going to own everything in Russia down to their shytty vodka