Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Russia inherited its massive stocks from the Soviet Union. However, a good part is not in good condition or well maintained obviously.

But on tanks alone (they supposedly have between 12k and 20k), they lost more than the entirety of France, UK, Germany and Polish stocks combined and it's said that it's only equal to 50% of its usable stock. What's left is likely old or low tier stuff though.

Considering how hawkish Putin and potential successors are, I wouldn't be so sure they won't go to war after (if they ever finish in Ukraine). There's not many things that they did in the past months that could be explained rationally at least from a Westerner POV.

Lol, they have the exact same POV breh. The differences are mostly subjective. It's a failure of our educational system to think the world can be divided between those with "Western" values and everyone else. It's a false distinction. Power and national interests are the only values that exist. Now, what one considers in their national interests might differ from person to person, culture to culture, nation to nation. But chief among them is maintaining what I'd call the national mythology - the ideas, stories, narrative (cultural, social, religious, political, historical) with which the people identify on a truly fundamental level. Once that part of their psyche is activated, and politicians are experts at doing so, there is no turning back and people are capable of ignoring or justifying almost anything. For many Russians, especially the elite, their belief that Ukraine is Russian is as fundamental to their identity as the US belief in its historical identity as the defender/beacon of freedom. They've been beating that drum for literally hundreds of years. But as strongly as they believe in the idea of "reunification" as righting historical wrongs, most Ukrainians will point out that ethnically they may have descended from the same Rurik dynasty (9th century), that they have always maintained their own separate social, political, cultural, linguistic and religious identities. They've been fighting this battle for literally hundreds of years.
 

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Russia inherited its massive stocks from the Soviet Union. However, a good part is not in good condition or well maintained obviously.

But on tanks alone (they supposedly have between 12k and 20k), they lost more than the entirety of France, UK, Germany and Polish stocks combined and it's said that it's only equal to 50% of its usable stock. What's left is likely old or low tier stuff though.

Considering how hawkish Putin and potential successors are, I wouldn't be so sure they won't go to war after (if they ever finish in Ukraine). There's not many things that they did in the past months that could be explained rationally at least from a Westerner POV.
They will definitely go after some small country in there sphere just to bully and let their military nuts swing.
 

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Putin will throw more bodies to salvage this. He is so knee-deep into it he can't turn back.....this will be his undoing IMO.
He was betting on Europe and especially America (Trump second term) looking the other way.
He was also betting on a painful winter, high energy prices in Europe etc. The weather was much warmer than expected and fukked that up for him.
 

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SOHH ICEY MONOPOLY
800 KIA a day:picard:

That can't be right can it good Lord

Captured convicts from Russia stating that their still using USSR Stalingrad of just throwing bodies at opposing enemy lines. The few who survive build a trench a provide fire for rear troops who are also gunned down on advancement. shyt is amazing

Its right and its probably worse than that because they are emptying out prisons and sending them to the front lines. The Russian Army itself is enlisting prisoners along with Wagner PMC and Russia has over 400,000 violent offender to pick and choose from for cannon fodder. Thats not even counting all the ethnic Asian, Turkic and Caucaus Russians that are being disproportionately enlisted so that Moscow, St. Pete and other big cities like Kazan dont see mobilization unless absolutely necessary.

The Russian leadership will easily lose 1 million of their soldiers in this war with a smile on their face because in their mind, once the whole of Ukraine is conquered theyll be able to unite Russia, Ukraine and Belarus into Greater Historic Russia (along with potentially Moldova, the Baltics and Finland) and create the self sustaining White Ethno Superstate that they are vying for. Theyll lose hundreds of thousands of convicts and minorities in exchange for a fresh generation of White Orthodox children and adult sympathizers in the East while practically tripling their resources. To them thats a win. They've already started indoctrination of at least 10,000 Ukrainian children into Russian society, training them to be good little Putinists.

Imagine a dictator killing your whole family at 6, kidnapping you and shipping you off to a boarding school in a neighboring country where youll be forced to learn that he did that for your own good :wow:
 
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