GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
This shyt is a saga, breh. We're perhaps leading up to the climax...of the first book.shyt seems like we've gone into overdrive.
Feels like we are finally here
With the last square for interviewing Trump.
RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT
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I'm going to pick up some alcohol, put on some sweats, and enjoy this fukkery.
B. Pumpaveli
All Star
this shyt is a goddamn spectacle 
who knew Donald Trump would be this important 10 years ago
who knew Donald Trump would be this important 10 years ago
Think americans are smart enough not to vote for Trump while running a majority republican organization brehs
Nothing.
I'm more concerned about voter suppression and ethics in medicine right now. Honestly got no time to argue with nikkas over some shyt that I was right/confident about 12+ months ago.
FELIX SATER = WHITEY BULGERWhich is why the FBI and everyone dropped the ball. They don’t want this exposed.. This shyt is earth shattering
HOOLLLYYY SHHHITTT!!!
TRUMP AIDE OFFERED TO WITHDRAW AMERICAN TROOPS TO HELP PUTIN!!!
White House Official Floated Withdrawing U.S. Forces to Please Putin
White House Official Floated Withdrawing U.S. Forces to Please Putin
A member of Trump’s National Security Council staff had a radical notion: to pare back American troops in Europe as a way to curry favor with the Kremlin.
Photo Illustration by Elizabeth Brockway/The Daily Beast
A senior National Security Council official proposed withdrawing some U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe as an overture to Vladimir Putin during the early days of the Trump administration, according to a former administration official in the room with him.
While the proposal was ultimately not adopted, it is the first known case of senior aides to Donald Trump seeking to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin—something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump. The White House did not immediately respond to The Daily Beast's request for comment.
The official who offered the proposal, a deputy assistant to Trump for strategic planning, mused in February 2017 about withdrawing U.S. troops close to Russian borders as part of a strategy proposal to “refram[e] our interests within the context of a new relationship with Russia,” the former official told The Daily Beast, who heard this directly from the official, Kevin Harrington.
Harrington is the NSC’s senior official for strategic planning. He had neither military experience nor significant government experience before joining the White House. But he had an influential credential: as a managing director for the Thiel Macro hedge fund, he was close to Trump patron and ally Peter Thiel. Trump’s first national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, announced Harrington’s arrival in early February as part of a “talented group” ready to bring “fresh ideas to the table.”
“It's the first known case where senior Trump aides sought to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin.”
Among Harrington’s ideas were a fervent belief that economic sanctions, particularly those on Russia, were ultimately harmful to the United States. Early on in his tenure, Harrington prepared a paper for Flynn fleshing out those ideas into something approaching a grand strategy—and then going far further than any gesture toward Russia thus far reported.
With a large map showing Europe hanging on a wall in a White House office, Harrington was dismissive of U.S. interests in the Baltics and wondered aloud about their importance in the context of U.S.-Russian relations. American forces have remained on the continent for 70 years to deter the Soviet Union and, later, to reassure allies nervous about a resurgent Russia near their borders. The map did not show those U.S. troop positions—but it did provide a symbolic backdrop to what Harrington’s one-time associate believed was a most disturbing proposal.
Harrington’s former colleague told The Daily Beast that Harrington asked about the prospect of withdrawing or repositioning U.S. forces from the Baltics – nations once part of the Soviet Union and periodically swallowed up by Russia ever since Peter The Great shattered Swedish hegemony in northern Europe in the early 18th century. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania gained NATO accession in 2004 to guarantee their independence, a measure stridently opposed by Vladimir Putin, who saw the transatlantic military alliance not only enlarged but encroached within what Russia considers its sphere of influence.
According to the ex-colleague, Harrington considered it a gesture to the Kremlin that would enable the nascent Trump administration to see if its desire for a friendly relationship with Russia would be reciprocated. It was included in a strategy paper that, conspicuously to the former official, made no mention of Russia as either a competitor or adversary.
The ex-colleague considered the idea dangerously naive. The Kremlin was far more likely to view a unilateral U.S. troop reduction from eastern Europe as a green light from Washington for additional provocations, in Ukraine, Syria or elsewhere. If that wasn’t enough, European allies were already alarmed at Trump’s tendencies to discuss the defense of Europe as a protection racket. Seeing the new administration pull back from Europe would prompt fear on the continent, and especially within the Baltics, that the U.S. was abandoning its allies to a resurgent Russia.
“I sensed we were giving something and it wasn’t clear what we were gaining in return,” said the former official.
Harrington’s proposal lacked granularity. It did not go into the merits of removing specific military units or curbing particularly military activities in the Balkans. The former official considered that a side effect of Harrington’s ignorance of the military. Harrington was more interested in a self-styled blue-sky thinking that argued that decades of previous U.S. approaches to Russia were misguided than arguing the obsolescence of or harm caused by any specific Army brigade, Air Force fighter wing or training exercise.
The U.S. military has augmented its focus on the Baltic after Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. In June 2017, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania joined U.S. forces in a NATO cybersecurity wargame aimed at protecting the Baltic allies’ digital infrastructure—the same month that over 50 allied ships and submarines participated in an annual NATO naval exercise in the Baltic Sea. Two months later, the 48th Fighter Wing and its seven F-15s arrived at Lithuania’s Siauliai air base to take command of NATO’s Baltic airspace patrols.
The former administration official who told The Daily Beast about Harrington’s proposal was incredulous that anyone on the NSC would treat U.S. forces and European allies as chess pieces in a greater game with the Kremlin. But the ex-official chalked it up to a geopolitical inexperience and an enthusiasm for policy revisionism that characterized several on Flynn’s NSC.
Still, the former official said there was an urgency to Harrington’s exercise, and Flynn was Harrington’s primary audience for the proposal.
It was not Harrington’s only foray into unilateral gestures aimed at Russia. In March, Harrington proposed lifting U.S. sanctions on Russian oil, something an administration official justified to the Daily Beast as Harrington wondering,“if these sanctions are harming our economy without putting any pressure on Russia, what’s the point?”
In February, however, at a public forum, Harrington denied that the administration was looking to lift sanctions on Russia, saying “it’s smart to look at things from fresh angles, as it’s a fresh administration, but that doesn’t mean you should drop things for no improvement in behavior anywhere.”
In mid-December, the Washington Post reported that Harrington viewed U.S. closeness with Russia “as critical for surviving an energy apocalypse,” something his associates, the paper reported, said Harrington “discussed frequently and depicted as inevitable.”
This fit a pattern within the Trump administration, before and after Flynn’s White House tenure, of sidling up to Russia. Taken in sum, the pattern raises a question about whether Trump and his team are willing to pay Russia back for the Kremlin’s role in the election.
Flynn, who recently pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, admitted that he contacted Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in late December 2016 to ensure the Kremlin would not retaliate for a new round of U.S. sanctions aimed at punishing Russia’s electoral interference. The implication of the discussion was that the Russians could expect a better deal from a Trump administration. Soon afterward, while in office, Flynn discussed with the Pentagon a plan to expand a communications channel in Syria to deepen U.S.-Russian military ties, against the wishes of Congress.
“I sensed we were giving something and it wasn’t clear what we were gaining in return.”
— former National Security Council official
Trump himself has said he believes Vladimir Putin’s assurances, in contradiction of an FBI-NSA-CIA intelligence assessment, that the Kremlin did not interfere in the 2016 election. At their first meeting, in July, Trump backed a Putin plan to conclude the Syrian civil war on terms favorable to Russian client Bashar Assad.
Before and during his presidency, Trump has equivocated on his commitment to the defense of European allies. He has called NATO is “obsolete” and declined to endorse its critical Article 5 guarantee of mutual defense, only to walk those positions back under geopolitical pressure. Deputies like Secretary of State Rex Tillerson have had to reassure nervous allies that Trump has an “ironclad” commitment to European security after the president says things like “having Russia in a friendly posture, as opposed to always fighting with them, is an asset to the world and an asset to our country, not a liability.”
Trump fired Flynn on February 13, ostensibly for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about Flynn’s surreptitious conversations with Kislyak about lifting sanctions. The ex-official believed Harrington, who remains on the NSC, never actually pushed the proposal up the chain, as the current national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, would not countenance it.
Like other Flynn-era NSC aides, Harrington was was the subject of speculation suggesting his departure soon after Flynn’s downfall. But, unlike so-called “Flynnstones” Ezra Cohen-Watnick and Derek Harvey, it didn’t happen. As recently as October, McMaster cited Harrington as leading the NSC strategy team as it prepared the administration’s National Security Strategy, released last month.
The document appears more influenced by McMaster’s relatively conventional view of Russia as a “revisionist power.” Nor does it include any mention of withdrawing U.S. forces. Yet in the light of Harrington’s abortive proposal to remove U.S. military power from the Baltics, a line in the National Security Strategy appears conspicuous, even as it points in the direction of conflict rather than withdrawal.
“Competitions” from Russia, China and North Korea “require the United States to rethink the policies of the past two decades,” the document asserts, “policies based on the assumption that engagement with rivals and their inclusion in international institutions and global commerce would turn them into benign actors and trustworthy partners. For the most part, this premise turned out to be false.”
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there are way too many potential rabbit holes for me to go down when it comes to speculating about this.
i am very conspiratorially minded so this is something that i can't put myself through.
Dorian Breh
Veteran
this shyt is a goddamn spectacle
a decade ago he was a Hilary supporter
DonKnock
KPJ Gonna Save Us
Dorian Breh
Veteran
makes a lot more sense than Trumps dumbass being Whitey Bulger
Dorian Breh
Veteran
re: that daily beast article did someone investigate the relationship betw Thiel and Milner?