Russia beings bombing commercial ships delivering food to Africa

[Problematic Pat]

You have yet to explain how supposed NATO encroachment justifies a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a country not even in fukking NATO. Do you believe Russia is justified in invading every border country to create "space" against NATO encroachment?

NATO was created as a deterrent to the Soviet Union. It no longer exists so why is NATO trying to surround Russia??? Russia is 100% justified in protecting its national security. Why was Russia parking nukes in Cuba a problem in the 60s but it's not a problem for American nukes to be parked on Russias border today??

 

[Savvir]

NATO was created as a deterrent to the Soviet Union. It no longer exists so why is NATO trying to surround Russia??? Russia is 100% justified in protecting its national security. Why was Russia parking nukes in Cuba a problem in the 60s but it's not a problem for American nukes to be parked on Russias border today??

1. NATO membership only increased because of this conflict. If this war was meant to contain nato Putin failed miserably.

2. The US was instrumental in convincing Ukraine to give up its nukes. Ukraine will probably be working on a nuclear program as soon as this war is finished.

Massive failures in geopolitics on Russia’s part.

 

[chkmeout]

NATO was created as a deterrent to the Soviet Union. It no longer exists so why is NATO trying to surround Russia??? Russia is 100% justified in protecting its national security. Why was Russia parking nukes in Cuba a problem in the 60s but it's not a problem for American nukes to be parked on Russias border today??

That vodka hitting ain't it, ruski

 

[Problematic Pat]

1. NATO membership only increased because of this conflict. If this war was meant to contain nato Putin failed miserably.

2. The US was instrumental in convincing Ukraine to give up its nukes. Ukraine will probably be working on a nuclear program as soon as this war is finished.

Massive failures in geopolitics on Russia’s part.

NATO was expanding towards Russia in the 90s. That has been Putins entire point the whole time. Why are you crowding our borders when the threat you said was there no longer exists??
They even wanted to join NATO but were rebuffed so obviously their expansion was always nefarious.

Ukraine having nukes does nothing but make the world a lot more dangerous especially when mad men have took control over their government. No soft exist landing exists for Zelensky and his team. He's gonna catch hell from either his own people or the Kremlin. This entire escapade has destroyed Germanys manufacturing industry. Volkswagen the biggest employer in the country had to shutdown because the energy needs are way to expensive since either US or UK blew up the Nordstrom pipeline. They went from getting gas at a cheap rate they wouldn't get anywhere else to now paying an astronomical sum for LNG gas from the US. Other EU/NATO countries that relied on Russian gas are also feeling the pressure. What this is gonna cause is countries to no longer go with whatever plans the US tries to dictate because in the end they always get fukked while the US remains unfazed. National security will trump anything NATO or EU related so you can expect tensions and possible NATO and EU imploding from within. Turkey and Hungary already see the writing on the wall which is why they are applying for BRICS membership.

Western hegemony is DEAD. You are witnessing history but are too caught up in western propaganda to realize. The same propaganda peddlers that are apart of the media you consume do manage to tell the truth if you pay attention to what is being said instead of listening for confirmation bias only.

Houthis without a single naval ship are kicking America's ass over in the red sea. Technological. advances trumps billion dollar navy destroyers
The world has figured out how to defeat the US enormous military spending budget by investing in smarter ways to defeat them on the battlefield with cheap but extremely effective technology.
The guys who lost the geopolitical war are the same guys who've been trying to spin Ukraine loses into wins for the last two years that have yet to materialize on the battlefield.

 

[Problematic Pat]

That vodka hitting ain't it, ruski

Destroy the point or shut the fukk up.

 

[Grand Conde]

NATO was created as a deterrent to the Soviet Union. It no longer exists so why is NATO trying to surround Russia??? Russia is 100% justified in protecting its national security. Why was Russia parking nukes in Cuba a problem in the 60s but it's not a problem for American nukes to be parked on Russias border today??

...surround Russia? How dafuq could they surround fukking Russia?

You are intenionally ignoring my question - is Russia justified in invading its border countries to 'protect' against NATO encroachment?

 

[Problematic Pat]

...surround Russia? How dafuq could they surround fukking Russia?

You are intenionally ignoring my question - is Russia justified in invading its border countries to 'protect' against NATO encroachment?

They are crowding their border. Why wouldn't they see that as a threat. And I already answered your question. If you are threatening their national security why not put a stop to it?? You think America wouldn't do the same??

 

[Savvir]

NATO was expanding towards Russia in the 90s. That has been Putins entire point the whole time. Why are you crowding our borders when the threat you said was there no longer exists??
They even wanted to join NATO but were rebuffed so obviously their expansion was always nefarious.

Ukraine having nukes does nothing but make the world a lot more dangerous especially when mad men have took control over their government. No soft exist landing exists for Zelensky and his team. He's gonna catch hell from either his own people or the Kremlin. This entire escapade has destroyed Germanys manufacturing industry. Volkswagen the biggest employer in the country had to shutdown because the energy needs are way to expensive since either US or UK blew up the Nordstrom pipeline. They went from getting gas at a cheap rate they wouldn't get anywhere else to now paying an astronomical sum for LNG gas from the US. Other EU/NATO countries that relied on Russian gas are also feeling the pressure. What this is gonna cause is countries to no longer go with whatever plans the US tries to dictate because in the end they always get fukked while the US remains unfazed. National security will trump anything NATO or EU related so you can expect tensions and possible NATO and EU imploding from within. Turkey and Hungary already see the writing on the wall which is why they are applying for BRICS membership.

Western hegemony is DEAD. You are witnessing history but are too caught up in western propaganda to realize. The same propaganda peddlers that are apart of the media you consume do manage to tell the truth if you pay attention to what is being said instead of listening for confirmation bias only.

Houthis without a single naval ship are kicking America's ass over in the red sea. Technological. advances trumps billion dollar navy destroyers
The world has figured out how to defeat the US enormous military spending budget by investing in smarter ways to defeat them on the battlefield with cheap but extremely effective technology.
The guys who lost the geopolitical war are the same guys who've been trying to spin Ukraine loses into wins for the last two years that have yet to materialize on the battlefield.

Wait a sec…. The houthis are sinking USNavy ships?



Which country’s military has surpassed the US?

How come NATO is becoming stronger due to this conflict. This conflict was supposed to push nato back? NATO budgets and membership have only grown. This is a weird strategy.

 

[chkmeout]

Wait a sec…. The houthis are sinking USNavy ships?

He's an idiot.

 

[Problematic Pat]

Wait a sec…. The houthis are sinking USNavy ships?



Which country’s military has surpassed the US?

How come NATO is becoming stronger due to this conflict. This conflict was supposed to push nato back? NATO budgets and membership have only grown. This is a weird strategy.

They have held a months long blockade without having a navy. It's historically unprecedented as the US is the one with a superior Navy and can't do anything about it

No country has to surpass them they just created weapons that are more effective hence houthis using Iranian drones to prevent any ships from countries then deem hostile from passing through. Those same drones are being used by Hezbollah to strike deep inside Israel where it's "Iron Dome" is proven to be useless. Russia is able to easily repel attacks from advanced weapons systems and drones sent to Ukraine because they have a highly sophisticated method of jamming them that they have perfected. Which is why sending long range missiles will be pointless other than getting NATO territories struck inside and outside of Europe.

How exactly is NATO becoming stronger?? They are struggling in supplying weapons to Ukraine because they are now dipping into the weapons they need for their own defense of their nations. They don't even have the manufacturing capabilities if they ended up in a full blown war with Russia. I don't know where you are getting your news but you need better sources.

 

[Savvir]

They have held a months long blockade without having a navy. It's historically unprecedented as the US is the one with a superior Navy and can't do anything about it

No country has to surpass them they just created weapons that are more effective hence houthis using Iranian drones to prevent any ships from countries then deem hostile from passing through. Those same drones are being used by Hezbollah to strike deep inside Israel where it's "Iron Dome" is proven to be useless. Russia is able to easily repel attacks from advanced weapons systems and drones sent to Ukraine because they have a highly sophisticated method of jamming them that they have perfected. Which is why sending long range missiles will be pointless other than getting NATO territories struck inside and outside of Europe.

How exactly is NATO becoming stronger?? They are struggling in supplying weapons to Ukraine because they are now dipping into the weapons they need for their own defense of their nations. They don't even have the manufacturing capabilities if they ended up in a full blown war with Russia. I don't know where you are getting your news but you need better sources.

1. So houthis are able to maintaian blockade therefore they can defeat the US Navy?



2. Russia has been regularly hit by numerous drone attacks blowing up refineries, destroying military equipment, shutting down airfields/airports etc. Are you saying Russia has been safe from drone attacks in this war? Do you want evidence of the persistence of Ukrainian drone attacks?

3. Has Hezbollah has been able to inflict more casualties and damage than Israel? that's the only way I would consider their weapons systems more effective..... your measure of effectiveness doesn't seem to be evenly assessed.

4. Nato has been losing military equipment at a slower rate than Russia has been depleting their own on the battlefield. The US hasn't even sent Ukraine modern stockpiles... you gotta be kidding me....

5. Jesus christ.... if I believed your viewpoint I would think Russia has gotten stronger after this invasion...lol

 

[Problematic Pat]

1. So houthis are able to maintaian blockade therefore they can defeat the US Navy?



2. Russia has been regularly hit by numerous drone attacks blowing up refineries, destroying military equipment, shutting down airfields/airports etc. Are you saying Russia has been safe from drone attacks in this war? Do you want evidence of the persistence of Ukrainian drone attacks?

3. Has Hezbollah has been able to inflict more casualties and damage than Israel? that's the only way I would consider their weapons systems more effective..... your measure of effectiveness doesn't seem to be evenly assessed.

4. Nato has been losing military equipment at a slower rate than Russia has been depleting their own on the battlefield. The US hasn't even sent Ukraine modern stockpiles... you gotta be kidding me....

5. Jesus christ.... if I believed your viewpoint I would think Russia has gotten stronger after this invasion...lol

A blockade has never in the history of the world been enforced by any nation without a superior Navy let alone one without one.

Russia struck Ukraine one time and hit 70% of the country hitting critical energy infrastructure. Ukraine's drone strikes have been ineffective and will do nothing to turn the tide of the war in its favor. If those strikes mattered that would have been their focus.

Israel is the far superior military on paper. They can hit inside of the country because they are able to overwhelm the Iron Dome with it's cheap drones. They didn't need to match a Billion dollar defense system with their own billion dollar system.

If NATO was losing weapons at a slower rate why aren't they supplying them at a rate Ukraine can keep up with?? Why is Zelensky continually begging for more weapons?? ATACMs, Howitzers, Javlins, HIMARs, Patriot system have all been proven ineffective in changing the tide. What weapons do you think will miraculously change things to Ukraine's favor?? If those weapons exist what are they waiting on??? Germany has since stated they will scale back the amount of weapons from 11billion to 4 billion. NATOs strength isn't being shown anywhere. If they wanted a full-scale war no restrictions would have been in place.

Your viewpoint still hasn't shown anywhere that Ukraine is putting up a fight that matters. Don't throw rocks and then try to cop out when pressed to show where these Ukrainian victories are talking bout "i'lL qUoTe yOu nExT yEaR wHeN UkRaInE sTaRtS wInNinG"
Imperialist propagandists can't even spin this current cluster fukk and they get paid to do it but we should be listening to you??

 

[Savvir]

A blockade has never in the history of the world been enforced by any nation without a superior Navy let alone one without one.

Russia struck Ukraine one time and hit 70% of the country hitting critical energy infrastructure. Ukraine's drone strikes have been ineffective and will do nothing to turn the tide of the war in its favor. If those strikes mattered that would have been their focus.

Israel is the far superior military on paper. They can hit inside of the country because they are able to overwhelm the Iron Dome with it's cheap drones. They didn't need to match a Billion dollar defense system with their own billion dollar system.

If NATO was losing weapons at a slower rate why aren't they supplying them at a rate Ukraine can keep up with?? Why is Zelensky continually begging for more weapons?? ATACMs, Howitzers, Javlins, HIMARs, Patriot system have all been proven ineffective in changing the tide. What weapons do you think will miraculously change things to Ukraine's favor?? If those weapons exist what are they waiting on??? Germany has since stated they will scale back the amount of weapons from 11billion to 4 billion. NATOs strength isn't being shown anywhere. If they wanted a full-scale war no restrictions would have been in place.

Your viewpoint still hasn't shown anywhere that Ukraine is putting up a fight that matters. Don't throw rocks and then try to cop out when pressed to show where these Ukrainian victories are talking bout "i'lL qUoTe yOu nExT yEaR wHeN UkRaInE sTaRtS wInNinG"
Imperialist propagandists can't even spin this current cluster fukk and they get paid to do it but we should be listening to you??

Ok. I think you’re right.

How many more months do you think Ukraine can hold out before they surrender to Russia

 

[Grand Conde]

They are crowding their border. Why wouldn't they see that as a threat. And I already answered your question. If you are threatening their national security why not put a stop to it?? You think America wouldn't do the same??

So you believe Russia is justified in invading Finland, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania etc - completely insane.

 

[Mister Terrific]

NATO was created as a deterrent to the Soviet Union. It no longer exists so why is NATO trying to surround Russia??? Russia is 100% justified in protecting its national security. Why was Russia parking nukes in Cuba a problem in the 60s but it's not a problem for American nukes to be parked on Russias border today??

The US hasn’t needed to station nukes in other countries since the invention of ICBMs and nuclear powered submarines that could level Moscow from the artic circle.

Otherwise NATO is a free to join military organization and we have never needed your Orcish opinion about who can join and who can’t.

They have held a months long blockade without having a navy. It's historically unprecedented as the US is the one with a superior Navy and can't do anything about it

Hundreds of millions of tons of freight still pass through the Red Sea everyday. There is no blockage lol. It hurts because companies have to decide if one of you savages is going to fly a drone into a container ship full of Amazon products headed for Singapore whether it’s worth insuring it or just sailing somewhere else.

The real problem is the ecological disaster should one of the tankers be sunk that will largely affect Black and brown people.

If NATO was losing weapons at a slower rate why aren't they supplying them at a rate Ukraine can keep up with??

“Turbocharging” European Defense Production in Support of Ukraine​

Although the EU's ambitious pledge was initially met with skepticism, it has, nevertheless, yielded some limited results in production capacity–a 20-30% increase in shell production, with the expectation to reach the capacity of 1.4 million rounds by the end of 2024.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/turbocharging-european-defense-production-support-ukraine#:~:text=Although%20the%20EU's%20ambitious%20pledge,by%20the%20end%20of%202024.​

The European Arms Industry is Booming – Literally​

However, America is not alone in expanding its arms manufacturing output, with most nations putting in greater effort to produce munitionseither to refresh their own stockpiles or for export to Ukraine and beyond. Most notably, France has increased its arms exports by 47% over the time frame studied, although a large part of that increase came from major orders for combat aircraft to India, Egypt, and Qatar.

Nonetheless, such was the rise sales from France that it has become the second largest arms exporter in the world, replacing Russia which saw its arms exports drop by 53%.

“France is using the opportunity of strong global demand to boost its arms industry through exports,” said Katarina Djokic, a researcher at SIPRI.

Exceptional arms sales were also experienced by Italy, with an 86% increase over the previous three years, and South Korea which saw a 12 % rise. Meanwhile, arms shipments from China decreased by 5.3%, and also went down in Germany and the UK (both by 14%), Spain (2.2%) and Israel (25%).

The European Arms Industry is Booming – Literally

The defence sector is experiencing major growth, but who are the biggest winners?

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