Honestly it's two different fanbases. White people love MMA. Boxing is loved by Hispanic people, black people, Brits, Eastern Europeans etc. There is some crossover though. I'll watch a big UFC fight but boxing is my true love. I have noticed that a lot of UFC fans go out of their way to say how much they hate boxing. I say fukk it just follow what you like. If you like kickboxing then just watch that shyt. I really don't give a fukk
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Boxing is way bigger and more popular
Roy Jones takes out fan/MMA fighter Vyron Phillips in two rounds
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THE tale of Roy Jones Jr has taken another bizarre twist.
Once a great in the sport Jones, an American who has become a Russian citizen, boxed in a strange event on Sunday. Vyron Phillips, a fan essentially but also a MMA fighter, won a competition to fight Jones. The runner up in the competition, Anthony Trotter, got the consolation of being able to corner Phillips during the fight. Little good it did him. Jones casually knocked Phillips out in two rounds at the event in Phoenix, Arizona.
It was Jones first ‘contest’ (of sorts) since suffering a heavy knockout himself against Enzo Maccarinelli in Moscow in December. While many will want see Jones retire from competing, rather than stage strange events like this or risk injury in competitive boxing matches, so far there has been little indication that Jones will indeed hang up his gloves.
Roy Jones knocks out competition winner in bizarre comeback fight -
Vyron Phillips
"The Cannon"
image: http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/1445832466Vyron.jpg
Birthday: 1982-08-16
AGE: 33
image: http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/2208/img/w/flags/us.png
Minneapolis, Minnesota
United States
Height
6'2"
187.96 cm Weight
170 lbs
77.11 kg
Association:
Bruckmann Martial Arts
Class: Welterweight
Wins5 4 KO/TKO (80%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 1 DECISIONS (20%)
Losses3 0 KO/TKO (0%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 3 DECISIONS (100%)
Fight History
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Leonardo Xavier HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 46
Oct / 23 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Justin Schmit HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 45
Sep / 25 / 2015 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:42
loss Takashi Sato Pancrase - 265
Mar / 15 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
Jeff Mackens 3 5:00
win Erick Lozano Big John's MMA - Heavy Hitters
Oct / 04 / 2014 TKO (Cut)
N/A 1 4:28
loss Jarod Milko KOTC - Madness
Sep / 19 / 2014 Decision (Split)
Adam Cheadle 3 5:00
win Aaron Berke CFC - Canadian Fighting Championship 8
Sep / 13 / 2013 TKO (Punches)
N/A 2 3:31
win Quinton Curtis Driller Promotions / SEG - Caged Chaos at Canterbury Park 2
Apr / 27 / 2013 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Daniel Constant ECF - Elite Championship Fighting 2
Jul / 28 / 2012 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:50
Amateur Fights
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Justin Rheaume CFX 33 - Minnesota vs. Japan
Apr / 28 / 2012 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 3:00
win Pat Gionette KOTC - Underground 72
Nov / 12 / 2011 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:58
win Jesse Easterwood KOTC - Underground 60
Aug / 14 / 2010 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:22
Read more at Vyron
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THE tale of Roy Jones Jr has taken another bizarre twist.
Once a great in the sport Jones, an American who has become a Russian citizen, boxed in a strange event on Sunday. Vyron Phillips, a fan essentially but also a MMA fighter, won a competition to fight Jones. The runner up in the competition, Anthony Trotter, got the consolation of being able to corner Phillips during the fight. Little good it did him. Jones casually knocked Phillips out in two rounds at the event in Phoenix, Arizona.
It was Jones first ‘contest’ (of sorts) since suffering a heavy knockout himself against Enzo Maccarinelli in Moscow in December. While many will want see Jones retire from competing, rather than stage strange events like this or risk injury in competitive boxing matches, so far there has been little indication that Jones will indeed hang up his gloves.
Roy Jones knocks out competition winner in bizarre comeback fight -
Vyron Phillips
"The Cannon"
image: http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/1445832466Vyron.jpg
Birthday: 1982-08-16
AGE: 33
image: http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/2208/img/w/flags/us.png
United States
Height
6'2"
187.96 cm Weight
170 lbs
77.11 kg
Association:
Bruckmann Martial Arts
Class: Welterweight
Wins5 4 KO/TKO (80%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 1 DECISIONS (20%)
Losses3 0 KO/TKO (0%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 3 DECISIONS (100%)
Fight History
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Leonardo Xavier HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 46
Oct / 23 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Justin Schmit HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 45
Sep / 25 / 2015 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:42
loss Takashi Sato Pancrase - 265
Mar / 15 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
Jeff Mackens 3 5:00
win Erick Lozano Big John's MMA - Heavy Hitters
Oct / 04 / 2014 TKO (Cut)
N/A 1 4:28
loss Jarod Milko KOTC - Madness
Sep / 19 / 2014 Decision (Split)
Adam Cheadle 3 5:00
win Aaron Berke CFC - Canadian Fighting Championship 8
Sep / 13 / 2013 TKO (Punches)
N/A 2 3:31
win Quinton Curtis Driller Promotions / SEG - Caged Chaos at Canterbury Park 2
Apr / 27 / 2013 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Daniel Constant ECF - Elite Championship Fighting 2
Jul / 28 / 2012 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:50
Amateur Fights
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Justin Rheaume CFX 33 - Minnesota vs. Japan
Apr / 28 / 2012 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 3:00
win Pat Gionette KOTC - Underground 72
Nov / 12 / 2011 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:58
win Jesse Easterwood KOTC - Underground 60
Aug / 14 / 2010 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:22
Read more at Vyron
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THE tale of Roy Jones Jr has taken another bizarre twist.
Once a great in the sport Jones, an American who has become a Russian citizen, boxed in a strange event on Sunday. Vyron Phillips, a fan essentially but also a MMA fighter, won a competition to fight Jones. The runner up in the competition, Anthony Trotter, got the consolation of being able to corner Phillips during the fight. Little good it did him. Jones casually knocked Phillips out in two rounds at the event in Phoenix, Arizona.
It was Jones first ‘contest’ (of sorts) since suffering a heavy knockout himself against Enzo Maccarinelli in Moscow in December. While many will want see Jones retire from competing, rather than stage strange events like this or risk injury in competitive boxing matches, so far there has been little indication that Jones will indeed hang up his gloves.
Roy Jones knocks out competition winner in bizarre comeback fight -
Vyron Phillips
"The Cannon"
image: http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/1445832466Vyron.jpg
Birthday: 1982-08-16
AGE: 33
image: http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/2208/img/w/flags/us.png
Minneapolis, Minnesota
United States
Height
6'2"
187.96 cm Weight
170 lbs
77.11 kg
Association:
Bruckmann Martial Arts
Class: Welterweight
Wins5 4 KO/TKO (80%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 1 DECISIONS (20%)
Losses3 0 KO/TKO (0%) 0 SUBMISSIONS (0%) 3 DECISIONS (100%)
Fight History
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Leonardo Xavier HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 46
Oct / 23 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Justin Schmit HKFC - School of Hard Knocks 45
Sep / 25 / 2015 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:42
loss Takashi Sato Pancrase - 265
Mar / 15 / 2015 Decision (Unanimous)
Jeff Mackens 3 5:00
win Erick Lozano Big John's MMA - Heavy Hitters
Oct / 04 / 2014 TKO (Cut)
N/A 1 4:28
loss Jarod Milko KOTC - Madness
Sep / 19 / 2014 Decision (Split)
Adam Cheadle 3 5:00
win Aaron Berke CFC - Canadian Fighting Championship 8
Sep / 13 / 2013 TKO (Punches)
N/A 2 3:31
win Quinton Curtis Driller Promotions / SEG - Caged Chaos at Canterbury Park 2
Apr / 27 / 2013 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 5:00
win Daniel Constant ECF - Elite Championship Fighting 2
Jul / 28 / 2012 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:50
Amateur Fights
Result Fighter Event Method/Referee R Time
loss Justin Rheaume CFX 33 - Minnesota vs. Japan
Apr / 28 / 2012 Decision (Unanimous)
N/A 3 3:00
win Pat Gionette KOTC - Underground 72
Nov / 12 / 2011 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:58
win Jesse Easterwood KOTC - Underground 60
Aug / 14 / 2010 TKO (Punches)
N/A 1 1:22
Read more at Vyron
How was this fight sanctioned? Makes no sense.
How was this fight sanctioned? Makes no sense.
Roy Jones cant beat top rated Boxing opponents, so now he's facing fans/MMA fighters in Boxing matches to pad his record and earn $$$ it seems
He needs to just retire
Roy Jones cant beat top rated Boxing opponents, so now he's facing fans/MMA fighters in Boxing matches to pad his record and earn $$$ it seems
He needs to just retire
it doesn't count on his record...its like BNB lol
pez
All Star
Can't I be a fan of both? I just love fight shyt. Where's the K1 option?
Morning Report: Jim Lampley says UFC will 'never' book an event as big as Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather
By David St. Martin @SaintMMA on Mar 22, 2016, 8:00a 270
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
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Last May, HBO boxing's Jim Lampley told the Rich Eisen Show that he "felt terrible" for anyone who paid any amount of money to watch the "fight of the century" between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.
He was critical of just about every facet of the bout from its inception to its culmination, but you'd never guess it listening to him talk about the world's leading MMA promotion with Bill Simmons on his podcast.
"[UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons. "It's more like the NFL model where any given Sunday top guys are going to fight top guys. But of course what that eliminates for them is the pinnacle event. When everybody has four to five losses you can't put together Mayweather-Pacquiao because the public wants to see people rise up way above the normal universe and then get together in some sort of summit meeting and that's when you get the million buy Pay-Per-View, or in the case with Mayweather-Pacquiao the 4.4 million buy PPV.
"UFC will never be able to construct an event like that as long as they use the model they're using. I'm not saying it's wrong. I think there are intelligent reasons for them to do what they do but we're always going to have the bigger showcase events when they happen."
Simmons countered by pointing out that the UFC holds far more consistently high-level events. Maybe not on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao, but that's quite the measuring stick.
If you thought Lampley would make it out of an MMA segment without insulting fans, don't you worry.
"That's why they're doing so well," Lampley responded. "It's a lesser amount of rounds and shorter rounds and it's more violent so it suits cyber-era attention spans better than the 12-round fight does. There are a lot of reasons why for young people at this moment the UFC is probably more popular that boxing, but we're not going away.
"We're not evaporating from the landscape. We still have a certain cache which goes with 125 years of gloved prize fighting existence and all the socio-political impact that our fighters have had."
Morning Report: Jim Lampley says UFC will 'never' book an event as big as Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather
I agree with Lampley
By David St. Martin @SaintMMA on Mar 22, 2016, 8:00a 270
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
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Last May, HBO boxing's Jim Lampley told the Rich Eisen Show that he "felt terrible" for anyone who paid any amount of money to watch the "fight of the century" between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.
He was critical of just about every facet of the bout from its inception to its culmination, but you'd never guess it listening to him talk about the world's leading MMA promotion with Bill Simmons on his podcast.
"[UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons. "It's more like the NFL model where any given Sunday top guys are going to fight top guys. But of course what that eliminates for them is the pinnacle event. When everybody has four to five losses you can't put together Mayweather-Pacquiao because the public wants to see people rise up way above the normal universe and then get together in some sort of summit meeting and that's when you get the million buy Pay-Per-View, or in the case with Mayweather-Pacquiao the 4.4 million buy PPV.
"UFC will never be able to construct an event like that as long as they use the model they're using. I'm not saying it's wrong. I think there are intelligent reasons for them to do what they do but we're always going to have the bigger showcase events when they happen."
Simmons countered by pointing out that the UFC holds far more consistently high-level events. Maybe not on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao, but that's quite the measuring stick.
If you thought Lampley would make it out of an MMA segment without insulting fans, don't you worry.
"That's why they're doing so well," Lampley responded. "It's a lesser amount of rounds and shorter rounds and it's more violent so it suits cyber-era attention spans better than the 12-round fight does. There are a lot of reasons why for young people at this moment the UFC is probably more popular that boxing, but we're not going away.
"We're not evaporating from the landscape. We still have a certain cache which goes with 125 years of gloved prize fighting existence and all the socio-political impact that our fighters have had."
Morning Report: Jim Lampley says UFC will 'never' book an event as big as Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather
I agree with Lampley
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Morning Report: Jim Lampley says UFC will 'never' book an event as big as Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather
By David St. Martin @SaintMMA on Mar 22, 2016, 8:00a 270
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
TweetShare on Twitter ShareShare on Facebook PinPinterest 270 Comments ⋆ Rec Recommend this Post 1
Last May, HBO boxing's Jim Lampley told the Rich Eisen Show that he "felt terrible" for anyone who paid any amount of money to watch the "fight of the century" between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.
He was critical of just about every facet of the bout from its inception to its culmination, but you'd never guess it listening to him talk about the world's leading MMA promotion with Bill Simmons on his podcast.
"[UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons. "It's more like the NFL model where any given Sunday top guys are going to fight top guys. But of course what that eliminates for them is the pinnacle event. When everybody has four to five losses you can't put together Mayweather-Pacquiao because the public wants to see people rise up way above the normal universe and then get together in some sort of summit meeting and that's when you get the million buy Pay-Per-View, or in the case with Mayweather-Pacquiao the 4.4 million buy PPV.
"UFC will never be able to construct an event like that as long as they use the model they're using. I'm not saying it's wrong. I think there are intelligent reasons for them to do what they do but we're always going to have the bigger showcase events when they happen."
Simmons countered by pointing out that the UFC holds far more consistently high-level events. Maybe not on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao, but that's quite the measuring stick.
If you thought Lampley would make it out of an MMA segment without insulting fans, don't you worry.
"That's why they're doing so well," Lampley responded. "It's a lesser amount of rounds and shorter rounds and it's more violent so it suits cyber-era attention spans better than the 12-round fight does. There are a lot of reasons why for young people at this moment the UFC is probably more popular that boxing, but we're not going away.
"We're not evaporating from the landscape. We still have a certain cache which goes with 125 years of gloved prize fighting existence and all the socio-political impact that our fighters have had."
Morning Report: Jim Lampley says UFC will 'never' book an event as big as Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather
I agree with Lampley
UFC will never have an event as big as May/Pac.
It's going to take a long time for boxing itself to have a another event that big.
Boxing has a "Mayweather vs Pacquiao" type of event at least once every decade though
90s - Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield 2....did 1.99 million buys in 1997
2000s - Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr....did 2.48 million buys in 2007
2010s - Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Manny Pacquiao....did 4.6 million buys in 2015
Only reason Mayweather vs Pacquiao got so big (buy wise) unlike the others, was due to Mayweather being undefeated and all the racists buying the fight hoping Floyd would finally lose.
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Superstar
Boxing has a "Mayweather vs Pacquiao" type of event at least once every decade though
90s - Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield 2....did 1.99 million buys in 1997
2000s - Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr....did 2.48 million buys in 2007
2010s - Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Manny Pacquiao....did 4.6 million buys in 2015
Only reason Mayweather vs Pacquiao got so big (buy wise) unlike the others, was due to Mayweather being undefeated and all the racists buying the fight hoping Floyd would finally lose.
But they weren't even that close to being as big as Mayweather/Pac.
They were for there time period breh.
For example, Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler was the biggest fight of the 80s & Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was the biggest fight of the 70s....both of their ppv buys were unreported however. Doesn't mean the fights weren't just as big, just the process of media/marketing/fans already familiar with ppv/racists having a dog in the fight with Pacquiao they could side with in 2015 pushed the sale forward.
Ali/Frazier is the biggest fight of all-time...the numbers will never reflect that though.
The Infamous
Superstar
I just don't see anybody breaking that 4.6 million buys for a long time.