Royal Rumble: The Boxing vs. MMA Thread

[OfTheCross]

Both are niche sports.

But the battle rages on about which is more popular and why.

@The Infamous and @Master Teacher

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[The Infamous]

There's no point in arguing with Master Teacher.

And boxing is the more popular sport. Boxing is huge in a lot parts of the world.

 

[Master Teacher]

Both are niche sports.

But the battle rages on about which is more popular and why.

@The Infamous and @Master Teacher

Continue the debate in this dedicated thread.

Thanks!

All others feel free to jump in.

MMA is popular only the aspect in how it's being marketed by Zuffa.

Boxing isn't operated like that. Ricky Hatton had a way bigger fanbase in England than Conor does in Ireland, but he was never advertised as a brand here because that's not what the boxing business is.

UFC operates like WWE, and they brand their fighters like WWE does wrestlers, which is why Anderson Silva wasn't even allowed to change his music.


You don't have to accomplish anything when Zuffa can spend marketing dollars to make you visible.

Just look at Ronda, it was a serious effort to make her big, none of that effort is being applied to the other women.

Coker is a real promoter if you haven't notice.

All the UFC's top talent came from strikeforce to be honest, which is way a better ran promotion, if he had zuffa's money behind him, MMA would be big because he actually knows how to promote the right way.

He made that Kimbo fight pop, when Dana tried to ride the kimbo train in UFC it was a flop.

And Coker did it long after Kimbo's hype was dead.

It's like this before Floyd even fought on PPV he was making twice or maybe three times as much as Conor Mcgregor is making now, yet they want to compare him o money mayweather who built a career over a decade not a few years.

Mayweather didn't need ESPN to talk about his fights, they did anyway, because they have to cover it for ratings. That's why all the pundits were so salty because they didn't understand why this shyt was so popular when nobody talks about boxing on ESPN. It's because the boxing world is huge on it's own, they wanted in for their own benefit not the other way around.

 

[The Infamous]

A decent amount of Ronda's buzz was generated by herself.

Dana and co originally said women's MMA would never be in the UFC, they saw no future in women's MMA. Then Ronda started to blow up and he changed his mind. The UFC only started to market her heavily when they saw how big she was getting.

Strikeforce was a way better ran promotion? That's why they were struggling financially and eventually sold to Zuffa/UFC. Strike force did have a Zuffa like backing, Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment, main financial partner behind Strikeforce. They backed out of Strikeforce because of financial strain.

Exploring Why SVSE Walked Away from Strikeforce & MMA : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Not the best thread idea breh.

 

[OfTheCross]

A decent amount of Ronda's buzz was generated by herself.

Dana and co originally said women's MMA would never be in the UFC, they saw no future in women's MMA. Then Ronda started to blow up and he changed his mind. The UFC only started to market her heavily when they saw how big she was getting.

Strikeforce was a way better ran promotion? That's why they were struggling financially and eventually sold to Zuffa/UFC. Strike force did have a Zuffa like backing, Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment, main financial partner behind Strikeforce. They backed out of Strikeforce because of financial strain.

Exploring Why SVSE Walked Away from Strikeforce & MMA : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA

Bruh. They weren't struggling financially. Strikeforce was the only thing making SVSE money. The San Jose Sharks were dragging them down, if I remember correctly (I read that article some time last year).

Also, Ronda had no buzz on her own, it was UFC created, if Ronda had buzz, than Cyborg has major buzz as well, cause before Zuffa she was on that same level of popularity.

 

[The Infamous]

Not the best thread idea breh.

This. shyt could get ugly.

 

[The Infamous]

Bruh. They weren't struggling financially. Strikeforce was the only thing making SVSE money. The San Jose Sharks were dragging them down, if I remember correctly (I read that article some time last year).

Also, Ronda had no buzz on her own, it was UFC created, if Ronda had buzz, than Cyborg has major buzz as well, cause before Zuffa she was on that same level of popularity.

Why would SVSE back out if Strikeforce was making them money?

They (SVSE) got tired of writing big checks and not seeing the big return

Strikeforce was paying their main fighters very well. From what I've read, they weren't making much money (if at all). All the while, SVSE was putting a lot of money into the organization.

She did have some buzz before the UFC. That's why the UFC/Zuffa decided to bring the women's division to the UFC. If Cyborg had some buzz, they would've brought in the 145lb women's division for her.

Ronda created a spark, Zuffa made it big.

 

[The Infamous]

If Ronda had no buzz, then Zuffa wouldn't have brought women's MMA to the UFC.

 

[OfTheCross]

Why would SVSE back out if Strikeforce was making them money?



Strikeforce was paying their main fighters very well. From what I've read, they weren't making much money (if at all). All the while, SVSE was putting a lot of money into the organization.

She did have some buzz before the UFC. That's why the UFC/Zuffa decided to bring the women's division to the UFC. If Cyborg had some buzz, they would've brought in the 145lb women's division for her.

Ronda created a spark, Zuffa made it big.

Your question is answered in the same quote you posted. Just be real and post the entire thing.

And Ronda didn't have buzz but she had marketability. Zuffa was willing to bet on that.

When Ronda went to UFC Cyborg and Carano were still more known than her

 

[The Infamous]

Your question is answered in the same quote you posted. Just be real and post the entire thing.

And Ronda didn't have buzz but she had marketability. Zuffa was willing to bet on that.

When Ronda went to UFC Cyborg and Carano were still more known than her

I'm on my phone at work, I'll respond when I'm off work. But from what I remember most signs pointed to Strike force not doing well financially. I remember the UFC picking up Strike force for pretty damn cheap.

The media and pundits were saying the Strike force deal was a steal for Zuffa.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Phuck both of you.

 

[blackestofpanthers]

If you call boxing a niche sport in comparison to mma then you must call mma something much below that. Boxing is far more popular no matter how some people want to argue. People have only tried to make mma more than it is because they've had white faces at the forefront more recently while having more pub.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Your question is answered in the same quote you posted. Just be real and post the entire thing.

And Ronda didn't have buzz but she had marketability. Zuffa was willing to bet on that.

When Ronda went to UFC Cyborg and Carano were still more known than her

That is not true at all

 

[James Gordon]

Boxing wins by a landslide it has a over 100 year headstart on MMA UFC is what 25 imo its a unfair comparison