Rollins back at it, Moxley ''trying to take dinner off my table''

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Former Universal Champion Seth Rollins has been on a roll. He's been squaring up to New Japan Pro Wrestling talent on Twitter by boasting about his bank account, claiming that WWE features the best pro wrestling on the planet, and taking aim repeatedly at his former friend Jon Moxley.

Now, though, he's made it clear that he only believes people criticise WWE because it's the "cool" thing to do.

"I have always been proud to work for the company," he says. "I just think it got to where it became cool to criticize WWE because we are so big and popular. It just sucks that this is the society we live in now where it’s much easier to point out all the things you think is bad as opposed to pointing out all the awesome stuff that is going on in the world."

"It just felt to me nobody was standing up for WWE when we have a lot to be proud of. If taking on a leadership role is what you want to call it, it’s something where I stepped forward and put my foot down. The fact I had people from different departments shoot me texts to let me know they had my back because they felt I had their back. That was cool and validating."

"I felt really good I was representing many people who felt the way I felt,"
he concluded.

Even Forbes taking shots at Seth now :russ:

Seth Rollins Is Dead Wrong About Why Fans Hate WWE

Seth Rollins is slowly transitioning from one of WWE's most popular stars to one of its most controversial.

In recent weeks, Rollins has had no problem taking aim at fan complaints, whether directed at him specifically or at WWE as a whole. He recently said that he believes fans are "jealous" of his high-profile relationship with Becky Lynch, criticized how much TV time The New Day is getting and had an interesting Twitter beef with New Japan Pro-Wrestling star Will Ospreay that clearly established him as the villain in the situation. Now, Rollins is turning heads once again.

Here's what the former Universal Champion told Yahoo Sports (h/t Wrestling Inc) about why fans hate WWE:

"We're the New York Yankees. It's easy to hate the New England Patriots. We're those teams, we're the dynasty. It's easy to hate us, but we're still the most popular company in the world at what we do. We're so far beyond being a wrestling company that it's very easy to point the finger and hate on us. That's the cool thing to do, it makes perfect sense to me, it's how it's always been in sports and entertainment, you always hate the big guy. It's fine, I'm not upset about it at all."

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But Rollins is wrong. Dead wrong. In fact, the reason why fans "hate" WWE is exactly the opposite of what Rollins said it is.

Fans hate the New York Yankees and the New England Patriots because they're consistently good. The Patriots are the closest thing the NFL has had to a dynasty this century. The Yankees, meanwhile, are perennial playoff contenders who have won four World Series titles since 1999 and may currently be the best team in all of Major League Baseball. Much of the hatred directed toward those teams, as well as NBA franchises like the Golden State Warriors or other MLB teams like the Boston Red Sox, stems from a few factors: They're big market teams with a ton of star power, and they consistently win.

WWE, on the other hand, is more like the New York Knicks—the company has all the tools to be the best franchise in the league, including a big market and mainstream appeal, but shaky management has caused the organization to fail to live up to its potential. The same can be said of WWE, which has more talent than ever before, recently signed a pair of massive TV deals that will keep the company very profitable for the foreseeable future and, as a pop culture phenomenon that is clearly the king of pro wrestling, should—at least in theory—be delivering the best product on the planet week in and week out.

But that hasn't been the case, not over the past year when, according to WWE's Key Performance Indicators, business is down in many key aspects, including Raw ratings (down 14%), SmackDown ratings (down 13%), live event attendance (down 11%) and the WWE Network (down 120,000 subscribers). Fans "hate" on WWE for the same reason that they hate on any professional sports team that has a boatload of talent, plenty of money and all the tools to be successful but, well, isn't: They're not performing up to expectations.

Between WrestleMania 34 and 35, Raw lost a whopping 25% of its audience while SmackDown lost roughly the same, not because WWE is "the big guy" as Rollins stated but because fans were simply expressing their dissatisfaction with the product. Aside from a few bright spots here and there, the past few years in WWE have been defined by a series of creative miscues and generally lackluster booking. It'd be much easier to identify all of WWE's booking failures—the push of Shane McMahon, the entire Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar feud, the start-and-stop push of Braun Strowman, etc.—than it would be to list its triumphs. Sure, there have been some, like the rise of Becky Lynch, but for the most part, WWE has either swung and missed or failed to swing at all on many of its biggest storylines.

There is a reason why morale within WWE is so low, why the number of superstars looking to leave WWE for All Elite Wrestling would "blow your mind" and why names like Dean Ambrose, Tye Dillinger and Chris Jericho already did. Many superstars want out of WWE for the same reason that some fans have stopped watching: The product isn't as good as it once was.

Rollins is simply not right when he says that fans hate WWE because it's "the cool thing to do" and is misguided when he tries to defend the company by explaining that all of its superstars and employees are working hard:

"I just want people to understand and appreciate the things we go through and the fact that we're always trying to do our best. Nobody is taking it easy, nobody is just getting by. Everybody from top to bottom, every department in the entire company is putting in as much work as they possibly can to make this the best."

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Very few fans are questioning the work ethic of WWE's superstars, its creative team members or its backstage officials. It is widely understood that they are all working incredibly hard to put on the best product possible. But many NBA teams who struggle from season to season are working hard as well, and for the most part, they aren't being criticized because they're "lazy" or simply because they're a big organization. They're being lambasted because they aren't performing as well as they should, which is also the case with WWE.

Truth be told, there is no real excuse as to why WWE—which has all the money, the creative brainpower and the talent in the world—should be putting on anything other than a fantastic product on a consistent basis. Instead, WWE is often delivering a product that is underwhelming at best and downright terrible at worst, one that overlooks too many superstars (Asuka, Rusev, etc.), focuses on ones it shouldn't be (Shane, The Undertaker, etc.), misguidedly uses short-term fixes (the use of part-time stars or the Wild Card rule, for example) and frequently fails to produce entertaining programming.

So, no—WWE isn't the Yankees or the Patriots.

It's any team with high expectations that fails to live up to them.
 

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So was his relationship with a nazi :ohhh:

Edit - @Rarely-Wrong Liggins hit the nail on the head regarding TSC and its dap-fishing LarS Sullivan outrage :yeshrug:

The crazy thing about that is a breh posted about Lars Sullivan being a coward, p*ssy and racist a few months before it hit Reddit (again) and the mainstream. We shyt on him for awhile and moved on. No fuss no muss. Then the new thread was posted and people were absolutely indignant like we didn't shyt on the b*stard previously for the same thing. It just became a show of who could be the most angry when he appeared for his random squash segments. He was easy to hate because he's not competent nor interesting. Randy Orton is a prime example of what happens when a racist, privileged cac becomes interesting again as that SD! thread proved. But that's a discussion for another time.
 

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rollins is obviously just vinces bytch/yes man at this point. prob does and says whatever vince tells him too. it shows from his weak ass promos to his bitter sucking his teeth comments like this garbage.
 

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Rollins comes across as a real corny dude to me, he always has, he’s a good wrestler but he’s a corny person. Roman seems like a great human being and Moxley seems like a crazy guy but cool too. Seth seems a bit bytch made to be honest, he’s consistently been like that for a long time, he has hoe tendencies. Roman seems like a real dude from everything I’ve seen and heard ever, he comes across very well, understandable why a company would want to make him the man, Moxley is reckless but he also seems to have a good heart, he may not be the sharpest tool around but he loves wrestling. Seth out of the bunch always seemed to have a bytchy feminine side to him.
 

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Rollins comes across as a real corny dude to me, he always has, he’s a good wrestler but he’s a corny person. Roman seems like a great human being and Moxley seems like a crazy guy but cool too. Seth seems a bit bytch made to be honest, he’s consistently been like that for a long time, he has hoe tendencies. Roman seems like a real dude from everything I’ve seen and heard ever, he comes across very well, understandable why a company would want to make him the man, Moxley is reckless but he also seems to have a good heart, he may not be the sharpest tool around but he loves wrestling. Seth out of the bunch always seemed to have a bytchy feminine side to him.
Roman is not the person I would build a company around. Stop that narrative. He is just a quiet Seth. If he had the belt he would deliver those same lines. Both of them have zero charisma and that’s why the company is failing.
You want 2 people:
Seth and Roman are the reason the company is shyt.
 

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Seth in 3 months as THE MAN has stuck his foot in his mouth more times than Cena did in 10 years and Roman did in 5 years...combined. :picard:
 

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Roman is not the person I would build a company around. Stop that narrative. He is just a quiet Seth. If he had the belt he would deliver those same lines. Both of them have zero charisma and that’s why the company is failing.
You want 2 people:
Seth and Roman are the reason the company is shyt.

I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about a company, would certainly be a person I’d build a company around, 1 of them at least. He has charisma, the look of a wrestler, the family history, sports background, a compelling story, he comes across as likeable and not bitter like Seth. He hasn’t really said anything wrong. He’s been respectful of others, is good with children, resilient in his personal life, women generally like him, works hard, professional, now experienced at a top level, has the ability to turn it up in the ring, can be a very good worker with the right opponents. Not to say he’s perfect but you don’t see him in scandals every other week, he works and shows up. He covers a lot of demographics, if they had let him be less restricted he would be able to do even more. He’s a top talent that any wrestling company would be lucky to have, trust me if he left WWE every single company would be competing for his signature. He succeeded in WWE way beyond Moxley and bigger than Seth too. Was just about to have another big run on top before the cancer came back. He’s 1 of the top stars in the business, he’s had times where he’s been below standard, on the mic and in the ring but he’s also had strong highs too. He’s a big asset for WWE and would be for any company. If they let him be more free he could break out like The Rock, only 1 Rock but he could be very successful and transition into movies too, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he goes into movies 1 day. He’s a superstar.
 
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