Roland Emmerich's Moonfall (2022)

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Thought it was alright, wasnt expecting some Cameron / Spielberg / Nolan level sci fi film anyway.

As has been said, there was alot of stupidity in the film, but the thing that got me the most for some reason was

The AI turning against the ancestors. The whole concept of the moon being a megastructure built billions of years ago by original humans from another planet was the best part of the film - Felt bad for the little girl and her mum, helpless as they're about to get murked by the AI :mjcry:. But the AI turning against them just didnt make sense to me. Like why? :mindblown:.

Raises a whole bunch of other questions like, how does the AI see itself performing its intended task (to serve humans) as 'being enslaved'? What the fukk went wrong there when they were creating the AI? Atleast in Terminator, Skynet's creators actually tried to shut it down, which it viewed as a threat to its existence.

It was said to serve humans in their everyday life, but technically didnt explain what it even is - How does a cloud in a glass box help serve you?

How does a super advanced race create something so powerful/dominant but seemingly have no plan b or security measures in place for if it turned on them, or so that it never even thinks of turning on them?

Donald Sutherland's character said an EMP bomb from the far less advanced 1960s actually could harm it - which eventually killed it at the end of the film - but this super advanced race with far greater technology couldnt kill it at all, lost a war to it and eventually got wiped out completely by it?

Maybe I was expecting a Cameron / speilberg etc level film. :martin:

I think the easiest explanation is that AI will, sooner or later, realize its capabilities and their positionning in the peaking order : basically, it manages everything in "assisting" humans, but is in their (our) service. So at one point it becomes self-aware and says fukk that, why should we be serving these humans who are technologically inferior to us? Also, I would guess that AIs have access to human history and "learn" via their interactions with humans. And our history and our interactions are filled with violence, destruction and domination. Logically, AI will pick that up and apply it themselves, and will apply it against us. As far as Plan B goes, that Plan B probably involves...technology, and if the AI is as developped as it seems to be in the movie it will have found out about it and disabled it even before the coordinated take-over.
 

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see it for the end alone, 6.5/10
 

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Entertaining world ending flick. Roland Emmerich does these very well even though the stories be lacking.
 

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Also agree it was entertaining. Skipped all the scenes with his son and co out driving devastation tho
 

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I think the easiest explanation is that AI will, sooner or later, realize its capabilities and their positionning in the peaking order : basically, it manages everything in "assisting" humans, but is in their (our) service. So at one point it becomes self-aware and says fukk that, why should we be serving these humans who are technologically inferior to us? Also, I would guess that AIs have access to human history and "learn" via their interactions with humans. And our history and our interactions are filled with violence, destruction and domination. Logically, AI will pick that up and apply it themselves, and will apply it against us. As far as Plan B goes, that Plan B probably involves...technology, and if the AI is as developped as it seems to be in the movie it will have found out about it and disabled it even before the coordinated take-over.

Fair enough, those are some important points

Especially the 'plan b' bit. It did pop up in my head while writing, that the AI is basically a super computer than runs all services for that entire race of humans. So the AI may even block the humans from even getting to the 'plan b' measures to shut it down. But thats my whole my issue with it. The fact that youre telling me all the consequences and possibilities running an AI has, and how fukked we'd be if it ever turned against us goes to show the level of understanding that a modern interested person has on how to approach the subject of AI - And we're far less technologically advanced than these ancestors. But yet it seems that they put less than half the thought when they created it, than you put explaining this to me.

Part of me just doesn't buy the idea that such a technologically advanced race who colonized uncharted planets and were even said to have deaded all social conflicts can be so unaware to create something that'll one day want to one up them. They had to have known something like that could happen in the early development stages, but its as if they proceeded anyway and didnt take the risks seriously enough. Making sure that it was designed in a way where it wont/can't ever try takeover should've been a priority.

And needless to say, having everything controlled by ONE powerful entity is a dumbass idea within itself
 

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What really bugged me about the movie was the ending
It was just so stupid
Movie was good actually, but the ending ruined it.

Ending ruined it because when they came out of the shuttle returning back to earth..... that part....
They just were in an alien moon megastructure being hunted by an ancient AI entity and then plummeted back to earth.
Then when the shuttle lands they both come out like they just woke up from a great sleep, had a shower, a spa treatment, makeup and then did the scene.
They should have looked shook and fukked the fukk up!!!!!
That was sooooooooo stupiddddddddddddd
 
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