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ROH Death Before Dishonor 10 Thread: Rhino Main Events, Matt Hardy Returns, & More
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ROH used to be the IWC's favorite jumpoff.happened?
shyt started sinking for me when they gave Roderick the belt, that's when I stopped paying as much attention.
I used to go to every single NYC show since FB06, once Roddy got the belt I was done with em. Came back a little for Eddie and Davey's reign, Davey too got stale with the no-selling so I stepped away again, then Steen got the title and i`m officially done.
This company can thank Cornette & Delirious for the Fall of ROH dvd.
It would be awesome if ROH promised Fatt "dude, we going to put you high on the card, you'll be our A+ talent. We even let you do colour commentary during the first matches" and then on the day itself first "Matt, we appear to have some technical difficulties. Unfortunately your headset won't work, so you don't have to do colour anymore".
Then 10 minutes later "Matt, your match is up. You'll do the job against Grizzly Redwood. Oh, and it's a squash. Make him look good, we hired the best to do it!"
Then 10 minutes later "Matt, your match is up. You'll do the job against Grizzly Redwood. Oh, and it's a squash. Make him look good, we hired the best to do it!"
DoubleJ13
Smooth sailing from here on out...
They got new tag belts again, they're nice but they say tag team on them 5 times
Beautiful Bobby Eatin
SWEEEEEEEEEETNESS!
The Push Man
Pro
What did Delirious do?
Isn't he the booker?
What did Delirious do?
Believe he is or was the head booker.
DoubleJ13
Smooth sailing from here on out...
Delirious is the booker, but Cornette probably has more actual say than him. Delirious actually seems more involved with the school than anything else.
What did Delirious do?
Book all this trash
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
I still maintain that things were fine until the Sinclair changeover (I doubt that they were going to give Roddy the belt until Tyler Black decided to leave...I hope
), but once Davey got the belt and Sinclair bought the company, major problems began to emerge due to:1. Davey being provided with exactly zero fresh feuds. (He feuded with Eddie for 10 months. TEN fukkING MONTHS WITH NO REAL CHALLENGERS INBETWEEN. That feud should have been killed at Final Battle and they should have never looked back. They also should have put time into building somebody as an immediate challenger in those months so when January hit, we STILL wouldn't be doing this American Wolves split. I guarantee Davey hate would be cut in half by this.)
2. Sinclair putting no effort at all into the presentation of the product. (This is self-explanatory for anyone who watches the TV show and the iPPVs. It's beyond stupid to have your show look like it's straight out of 1982 in a climate where wrestling is a punchline for being culturally ass-backwards and it's especially galling that ROH with no TV and barely a backer could run streams far better than a company with a major broadcasting company behind them.)
3. Terribly laid out main events (Another problem with Davey's reign, one that I can more directly attribute to him. After BITW 2011, they should have put a total moratorium on protracted 30-plus minute mains and focused on punchier 20-minute mains. It's fine when you do the former once in a while, tedious when you do it all the time. The Final Battle main event was rightfully shyt on for this and for the fact that it was a bad wrestling/MMA hybrid. They couldn't dig up some BattlArts tapes or even Low Ki/Danielson from Round Robin Challenge, which was a shoot style match on the indies done fantastically?)
4. Repetitive, counter-intuitive, dull booking. (How many times did we need to see Lethal/Ciampa, really?)
I'll tell you right now, all of these reasons are going to contribute to the death of this company, and there are definitely more, but #2 especially WILL kill them by the end of 2013. ROH could probably survive like a half-dead zombie through the other three, but you can't have the people that fund you not give a damn and expect perception to be positive when it blatantly shows.
I love ROH and want it to succeed, but fukk Sinclair and fukk what it's become now.
OGJOHNNY5
Sober Poster
So this PPV was wack?
*continues not watching ROH*
*continues not watching ROH*
Beautiful Bobby Eatin
SWEEEEEEEEEETNESS!
I still maintain that things were fine until the Sinclair changeover (I doubt that they were going to give Roddy the belt until Tyler Black decided to leave...I hope
1. Davey being provided with exactly zero fresh feuds. (He feuded with Eddie for 10 months. TEN fukkING MONTHS WITH NO REAL CHALLENGERS INBETWEEN. That feud should have been killed at Final Battle and they should have never looked back. They also should have put time into building somebody as an immediate challenger in those months so when January hit, we STILL wouldn't be doing this American Wolves split. I guarantee Davey hate would be cut in half by this.)
2. Sinclair putting no effort at all into the presentation of the product. (This is self-explanatory for anyone who watches the TV show and the iPPVs. It's beyond stupid to have your show look like it's straight out of 1982 in a climate where wrestling is a punchline for being culturally ass-backwards and it's especially galling that ROH with no TV and barely a backer could run streams far better than a company with a major broadcasting company behind them.)
3. Terribly laid out main events (Another problem with Davey's reign, one that I can more directly attribute to him. After BITW 2011, they should have put a total moratorium on protracted 30-plus minute mains and focused on punchier 20-minute mains. It's fine when you do the former once in a while, tedious when you do it all the time. The Final Battle main event was rightfully shyt on for this and for the fact that it was a bad wrestling/MMA hybrid. They couldn't dig up some BattlArts tapes or even Low Ki/Danielson from Round Robin Challenge, which was a shoot style match on the indies done fantastically?)
4. Repetitive, counter-intuitive, dull booking. (How many times did we need to see Lethal/Ciampa, really?)
I'll tell you right now, all of these reasons are going to contribute to the death of this company, and there are definitely more, but #2 especially WILL kill them by the end of 2013. ROH could probably survive like a half-dead zombie through the other three, but you can't have the people that fund you not give a damn and expect perception to be positive when it blatantly shows.
I love ROH and want it to succeed, but fukk Sinclair and fukk what it's become now.
Absolutely word for word what needed to be said about the current product. +dap and pending + rep
Project Downtime
All Star
Is this picture photoshopped? looks peculiar
Sucking in his gut + only two beers that day + photoshop = that picture