Albums Roc Marciano & The Alchemist - The Skeleton Key (Discussion Thread)
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So it's over for the bonus tracks??
I didn't even get to hear them
I didn't even get to hear them
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
They'll make it back to youtube within a week or so. The album links I had expired otherwise I'd help you out. Bonus tracks are likely on soulseek by now tooSo it's over for the bonus tracks??
I didn't even get to hear them
Pegasus Jackson
Trump's Amerikkka
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
soulseek is still the best shyt ever.
but I feel ya.
bigillwill06
All Star
Anything where he’s talking about nikkaz coming at him and how they put more thought into they ig posts than they music feels like it was about Westside. The line on track one were he says “this what grown men do” feels like it was to stove god.
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Roc and WSG got static?
bigillwill06
All Star
Stove, Rome and west did an interview and when stoves album with Roc producing all the beats came up , stove basically said his label made him do it and he never wanted too and he never liked any of the beats and felt like even the sound itself was not a good one for him. Than made a snide remark about the beats to which westside kinda looked to approve of. After this interview I noticed Roc and west ain’t did nothing together since and Roc unfollowed him
bigillwill06
All Star
x.com
x.com
Rocs manager when asked to reconcile bizness relationship with stove because Griselda ain’t droppin his shyt.
Video of interview was removed probably to avoid any beef but I found the thread we did on it and it was Rome apparently not westside that gave the look about rocs beats being wack
What’s fukked up is that Roc was one of the first major underground stars from New York besides prodigy to give them buffalo nikkaz that New York stamp of approval. Raekwon followed a year or so later making it OFFICIAL. I wonder what really happened behind the scenes.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
I like this project a lot more now. I still liked it the first few days, but about half of this needed to sit with me for a little while. If you threw these beats on a beat tape they wouldn't be big standouts to me by Alc, but something about the marriage between these beats and Roc's vocals...
One of Al's best characteristics as a producer was starting to care more about being a producer and less about being a beatmaker. How the artist sounds on the track became the #1 priority over "making the dopest beat" and it shows on a project like this.
I still think I like Elephant Man's Bones a little bit more than this one, but I appreciate that this one sounds totally different and isn't just a repeat.
One of Al's best characteristics as a producer was starting to care more about being a producer and less about being a beatmaker. How the artist sounds on the track became the #1 priority over "making the dopest beat" and it shows on a project like this.
I still think I like Elephant Man's Bones a little bit more than this one, but I appreciate that this one sounds totally different and isn't just a repeat.
bigillwill06
All Star
I’m waiting a while before I compare. There are several songs I know will hit harder in a few weeks and there are maybe a couple that might get repetitive and thrown out my master rotation. Elephant man’s bones I kept the intro, zip guns, Deja Vu, quantum leap, jj flash, zip guns and macaroni in my master playlist for my car. That’s a lot of songs to still be on there now still from an album that came out in 2022. One thing I will say about the new joint is that I liked most of the songs after a few listens even the so called experimental ones. I feel like Roc lyrically has mastered how he wants to approach and execute his perfoemances on each album. It’s what makes him such a great “cult following” rapper because he really makes “art pieces” so to speak where I can actually understand why fans buy the vinyls and merch the way they do with him.I like this project a lot more now. I still liked it the first few days, but about half of this needed to sit with me for a little while. If you threw these beats on a beat tape they wouldn't be big standouts to me by Alc, but something about the marriage between these beats and Roc's vocals...
One of Al's best characteristics as a producer was starting to care more about being a producer and less about being a beatmaker. How the artist sounds on the track became the #1 priority over "making the dopest beat" and it shows on a project like this.
I still think I like Elephant Man's Bones a little bit more than this one, but I appreciate that this one sounds totally different and isn't just a repeat.
If you threw these beats on a beat tape they wouldn't be big standouts to me by Alc, but something about the marriage between these beats and Roc's vocals...
100%.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Yeah.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
I'm curious whether this is recently recorded or a collection they made from existing material. Super Tecmo Bo was material not used for Bo Jackson, and some people like Super Tecmo Bo more than Bo Jackson. Alc said recently on a podcast that he wanted to do something like Super Tecmo but Elephant Man Bones, because he said that he and Roc had so much extra material from making that album.
I kind of think that's what they did here, but I don't know for sure.
I kind of think that's what they did here, but I don't know for sure.
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