U missed the whole point. Roc made that shyt a style. Roc made it a whole lane. Roc gave it an aesthetic. Some cool shyt. U mad. But the nikkas u speaking on even credit Roc. Jay Elect ain’t even release enough material to usher shyt in. No one said Roc was the first nikka to rap over a drumless loop. That nikka is the person who made it a part of a movement tho. And the fukking producers will say it themselves. Alchemist has done drumless loops in 1999. Yet he STILL credit’s Roc. Doom wasn’t fly, Price wasn’t fly, Jay Elec wasn’t fly. Etc etc. Roc made that underground shyt FLY bruh. He made it cool. This nikka was talkin that Jay Z type shyt over underground aesthetic. Then went and sold vinyl and merch and put a price on that aesthetic. Roc deserves his credit.
Lmao. Who the fukk thinks the “new ug” “goon” rappers like ransom larry june griselda are “fly”? The fukk?
your exaggerating like crazy. Who thinks underground shyt is fly cept on here lmao?
These albums sell 10k and gone. theres barely any rappers super successful with the style in the first place. Reality is it spawned a whole bunch of throwaway shyt that dont last for a niche audience. It has little to no influence on the mainstream.
how did roc make it a lane when sean p just a couple years prior and every rapper i listed made it a lane before him. Roc applied the mf doom underground blueprint to sean p’s formula. You telling me roc dont do the random mf doom multi syllable rhyme style? We make fun of his shyt on here cuz its just random and has no direction just like doom shyt. Like i said, hes just next in line. Rapping that way over that style of production is NOTHING NEW. Pretending it is is what annoys me.
even you bringing up jay z? Jay z rhymed over this style what over 20 years ago? You just said it yaself. Jay z/ just blaze, people bringing up dear summer. Who produced jay elect? Just blaze. Jay elect exhibit c is the sound of the entire underground roc is ort of. THAT was mainstream. Jay elect had way more or a buzz than roc marci despite not dropping.
Its basically the purist hip hop branch of the genre… you can go back 30 years and find the same style of hip hop from a dozen plus artists. The whole production style is cuban linx/supreme clientele -> madvillainy -> donuts. Rza/dilla/madlib. Even alchemist changed his whole style up to blend in.
the whole vinyl and merch aestetic been underground hip hop since 1995. People just slept for a couple years and it felt new again. It wasnt.
