RIP Kyren Lacy

[NYC Rebel]

TBF this little yn obviously didn't respect his life of the lives of others so why should anyone have to grandstand acting like he was a model citizen because he took his life?

So a Black male has to have a stellar resume in order to respect Black life? He is an first degree murderer now, not a young man who being a dumb young man.

This is part of the reasons why “YN” behave as they do. Yall put qualifiers on them.

 

[broller]

Can’t speak for NYC Rebel but I think his point is that this quickly attributing it to CTE skips over the larger epidemic black men are facing.

It could have been CTE but just the same has CTE been prevalent in suicides this young? I feel like it’s been more after player retire and can’t deal with the long lasting impact.

The problem is speaking in the absolute that Lacy's death was certainly not due to CTE.

Also, I posted a link earlier in the thread about a high school football player who killed himself and was found to have CTE. He shot himself in the chest.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/rip-kyren-lacy.1078889/post-55434835

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/health/cte-teen-football-player/index.html

 

[Harry B]

Hmm I actually disagree. These guys live on the edge. The UGA situation is a prime example. Over a dozen players have been arrested for moving violations. There seems to be an open culture of racing. Yet Devon Wilfolk is the only one who unfortunately lost his life.

This could have happened to them, or a lot of guys who the public just views as malcontents and even think it’s entertaining

Lacy was living the same life as many football played: Fast cars, feeling untouchable, DV, gun culture, etc. His just spiraled out.

pulling out straps on your family members and celebrating your draft like nothing happened after you out murked peoples grandmothers and just before grand jury getting into another high speed chase with Jakes is boys will be boys to you? Really?

The lack of accountability some of us grown ups expect from young men/older boys is wild.


Where do you draw the line, actually murdering your family member and not just bucking at them?

 

[Braman]

You never replied my post or mention me until now.

Imagine someone who had experience of these cases and seen the pattern that causes suicide, but getting argue by some loser who want to make cool points on message board

GTFO you charlatan. I respect the case workers, psychologists, and suicide preventionists who put their hearts into this.

You looking satisfaction with a small group of people on the innanetz.

Are you fukking serious

1- You said this:

CTE degenerates the brain over time, Lacy was only 25.

You were proven wrong. 2 cases of CTE in famous NFL deaths age 25 and 26. And a high schooler

2. You said this:

It was clearly depression because he killed a man in a hit and run . They were going to hear the case tomorrow. Kyren thinking his football career was over and have nothing left.

You were proven wrong. We got more info and that’s not how it went.

3. Ignored your post?? Are your referring to this?

You still haven't told me what previous episode Lacy had that might led to CTE.

I would chalk it up to misspeaking but you asked that TWICE. Which shows me who actually don’t know wtf you’re talking about. Either that or learn how to articulate yourself. Bc if what you MEAN to ask is what previous issues shows possible signs OF CTE, again more info came out and —wait for it——Lacy had a domestic situation with guns. In addition to Brian Kelly before any accident said “he’s a high strung young man…. He’s had emotional control and discipline issues he’s working on”.

I’m glad you respect the psychologist. That’s all you can do bc you ain’t one. Social worker =/= psychologist. Social workers or the public cant diagnose. Yet also social workers nor the public can rule out either. So to imply you can is clown shyt. I would say you broke hypocratic oath but again you’re not a doctor so it doesn’t apply

 

[The ADD]

The problem is speaking in the absolute that Lacy's death was certainly not due to CTE.

Also, I posted a link earlier in the thread about a high school football player who killed himself and was found to have CTE. He shot himself in the chest.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/rip-kyren-lacy.1078889/post-55434835

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/health/cte-teen-football-player/index.html

I don’t think anyone is saying it wasn’t CTE. At the same time I think the larger issue is that suicide is more prevalent amongst black men. There is a conversation about how it’s clearly being seen as an option with or without CTE being a factor.

 

[bigde09]

We live in an era where our lives aren’t respected and our bodies abused. A young black male kills himself in. The folks are already erecting, a bully pulpit with his body to say CTE instead of letting shyt process less than 24 hours later.

My God son lost his dad to suicide. I know of parents who lost their children to it. Black boys in particular. And I’m supposed to be OK with someone seeing a Black body and 10 minutes later jumping on the cac speculation bandwagon.

fukk outta here.

Your point would make sense if he didn’t kill someone and fled and pull out a shot gun on his own family (and could have easily killed them too because the gun actually went off when he did so)

Why does he deserve the benefit of the doubt when the evidence we have of him is him being on demon time?

 

[Deafheaven]

So a Black male has to have a stellar resume in order to respect Black life? He is an first degree murderer now, not a young man who being a dumb young man.

This is part of the reasons why “YN” behave as they do. Yall put qualifiers on them.

I didn't say anything about not respecting black lives. what I did say is he most certainly didn't. you putting words in my mouth, thats uncouth breh. I've been a young dumb man too. I never killed anyone or pulled a gun on my family.

 

[Braman]

pulling out straps on your family members and celebrating your draft like nothing happened after you out murked peoples grandmothers and just before grand jury getting into another high speed chase with Jakes is boys will be boys to you? Really?

The lack of accountability some of us grown ups expect from young men/older boys is wild.


Where do you draw the line, actually murdering your family member and not just bucking at them?

Geez yall are too thirsty for an argument.

I’m speaking of his specific demographic: big name athletes in the league or at major programs with sudden fame, money, etc. The line separating the ones who crash out vs the ones that don’t is thinner than you think.

Lacy didn’t make it while others escaped and they themselves would tell you they lucky to be alive and/or not in jail. AI pulled the strap on his wife. Jermaine oneal got shot at. Pac-Man jones was just on a pod saying how lucky he was, etc

 

[broller]

I don’t think anyone is saying it wasn’t CTE. At the same time I think the larger issue is that suicide is more prevalent amongst black men. There is a conversation about how it’s clearly being seen as an option with or without CTE being a factor.

That's not true. Read this thread.

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

Are you fukking serious

1- You said this:


You were proven wrong. 2 cases of CTE in famous NFL deaths age 25 and 26. And a high schooler

2. You said this:


You were proven wrong. We got more info and that’s not how it went.

3. Ignored your post?? Are your referring to this?


I would chalk it up to misspeaking but you asked that TWICE. Which shows me who actually don’t know wtf you’re talking about. Either that or learn how to articulate yourself. Bc if what you MEAN to ask is what previous issues shows possible signs OF CTE, again more info came out and —wait for it——Lacy had a domestic situation with guns. In addition to Brian Kelly before any accident said “he’s a high strung young man…. He’s had emotional control and discipline issues he’s working on”.

I’m glad you respect the psychologist. That’s all you can do bc you ain’t one. Social worker =/= psychologist. Social workers or the public cant diagnose. Yet also social workers nor the public can rule out either. So to imply you can is clown shyt. I would say you broke hypocratic oath but again you’re not a doctor so it doesn’t apply

And you still ignoring that his speed racing led to somebody death. Traumatic event that he cause can led to the stress and lose emotional control.

CTE isn't the end of all, are you daft?

But continue trying to sound like you know stuff

 

[broller]

And you still ignoring that his speed racing led to somebody death. Traumatic event that he cause can led to the stress and lose emotional control.

CTE isn't the end of all, are you daft?

But continue trying to sound like you know stuff

But CTE can lead to him driving recklessly. I'm not saying that's what happened in this case but you cannot rule it out. A medical professional would not say CTE was ruled out in his case.

I get it though. CTE shouldn't be used as an explanation for everything, as people do this stuff without ever suffering chronic head trauma. But one cannot say definitively that it wasn't a factor in Lacy.

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

But CTE can lead to him driving recklessly. I'm not saying that's what happened in this case but you cannot rule it out. A medical professional would not say CTE was ruled out in his case.

I get it though. CTE shouldn't be used as an explanation for everything, as people do this stuff without ever suffering chronic head trauma. But one cannot say definitively that it wasn't a factor in Lacy.

Cmon man, now yall using CTE that happened often with young men, driving at high speed recklessly. We see average joes to YNs doing this. It's more stupid decision making than that.

All I saying you can't throw CTE every time a football player did something wrong. Kyren did something dumb and someone died. And was likely depressed because of it.

 

[L@CaT]

I just read he got in a police chase before shooting himself?

 

[Braman]

Cmon man, now yall using CTE that happened often with young men, driving at high speed recklessly. We see average joes to YNs doing this. It's more stupid decision making than that.

All I saying you can't throw CTE every time a football player did something wrong. Kyren did something dumb and someone died. And was likely depressed because of it.

’You can’t throw CTE into this’….10 seconds later: ‘he was likely depressed’

So no one should armchair diagnose, except if it’s you nasty work

You been proven wrong no less than 3 times and no less than 3 people have told you: you nor anyone else are qualified to rule out CTE. Just plain ignorant

 

[jadillac]

That’s stupidity and selfishness more than anything.

His stupidity and recklessness and is why he was in that situation in the first place.

Doesn’t necessarily pinpoint to CTE.

I think being coddled at all levels, getting your way, and now being paid 6-figure NIL deals as a college athlete.....his actions could just been a result of all that.

Not necessarily CTE.