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This ban was on cosmetic features. It did nothing to stop crime. People out here seriously acting like being able to hold a firearm correctly, having a forward grip, a flash hider, a sliding stock, or being able to reload a second faster is going to turn people into mass murderers.
 

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Why shouldn't Californian's be allowed to own an AR-15?
Because elected lawmakers passed a law.

George W. Bush appointed judge acting activist as fukk. This ruling is bullshyt, he's basically saying that he can decide whether a law is justified or not using all sorts of rationales that have nothing to do with constitutionality.


“Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment....One is to be forgiven if one is persuaded by news media and others that the nation is awash with murderous AR-15 assault rifles. The facts, however, do not support this hyperbole, and facts matter.”


Sounds like he's recording an NRA commercial. :mjlol:
 

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George W. Bush appointed judge acting activist as fukk. This ruling is bullshyt, he's basically saying that he can decide whether a law is justified or not using all sorts of rationales that have nothing to do with constitutionality.
The law is bullshyt. It does nothing to deter crime. There is no victim, so how can the state argue "compelling interest" exists?

The Heller test is a test that any citizen can understand. Heller asks whether a law bans a firearm that is commonly owned by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes. It is a hardware test. Heller draws a distinction between firearms commonly owned for lawful purposes and unusual arms adapted to unlawful uses as well as arms solely useful for military purposes. As applied to AWCA, the Heller test asks: is a modern rifle commonly owned by law-abiding citizens for a lawful purpose? For the AR-15 type rifle the answer is “yes.” The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and keep the popular AR-15 rifle and its many variants do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense at home. Under Heller, that is all that is needed. Using the easy to understand Heller test, it is obvious that the California assault weapon ban is unconstitutional. Under the Heller test, judicial review can end right here.

how they go after this and not the stupid serial number stamping on bullet shells that got Californians stuck with only being able to buy the equivalent of the iphone 3 of handguns? it's stupid AF that you can't get current generation glocks, s&w, rugers, etc
Yeah, the roster is bullshyt, especially the fact that it's called the "safe handgun roster", yet cops are exempt. Why are LEOs allowed to operate unsafe handguns? That, and the "three off for one on" rule that is nothing more than a backdoor handgun ban.

Someone will undoubtedly sue the state when they get implicated for a crime they didn't commit because someone dropped their range brass at the scene of a shooting.
 

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The law is bullshyt. It does nothing to deter crime. There is no victim, so how can the state argue "compelling interest" exists?
Saying "there is no victim" is obviously false. most of the deadliest mass shootings in recent history have been committed with semi-automatic rifles and a large number (Vegas, Sandy Hook, Parkland, Sutherland Springs, San Bernardino, Aurora, Pittsburgh synagogue, Geneva County) were AR-15s or derivatives thereof. The fact that mass shootings have been committed with these weapons, and that they are obviously more easily effective for mass killing than most other weapons, is already sufficient criteria. Past that it's just a question of degree and where you draw the line, and it's the public/lawmakers who have the right to decide that, not judges.

By your logic, that judge should also invalidate the restrictions on damn near every other type of weapon, from chemical agents to ballistic knives, from fully automatic firearms to brass knuckles, from surface-to-air missiles to sawed-off shotguns. We already have restrictions on hundreds of weapons across America. AF-15's aren't any different because they have some special constitutional protection, they're only different because they have a specific gun culture and political lobby supporting them.


And to be clear, I don't think banning assault rifles is a very important step in making our communities safer, it's basically a distraction that is just a flashpoint in culture wars. But the ability of judges to invalidate damn near any kind of gun control restriction based on feelings rather than law is bullshyt and stems directly from a political desire to protect a certain kind of culture that is hurting our country.
 
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