Riley and Heat franchise deserve far more credit for Lebrons championship success

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The Lakers organization is 100% responsible for kobe's rings

until he signed that big ass contract few years ago :patrice:
 

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The Lakers organization is 100% responsible for kobe's rings

until he signed that big ass contract few years ago :patrice:
Truthfully, they also squandered some of his prime years.

As for LeBron, he has had some pretty inept coaches his entire career.
 
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Let's be real for a second...The Miami Heat and with Riley, Zo and them were the only organization with a sound structure and winning pedigree that Lebron has ever been with. Old school philosophy, old school dictatorship (Pat runs shyt) and old school mentality when it came to the power and influence a coach and players had. So Bron endured a situation he didn't like, got him a couple rings and went right back to what he wants and what he's comfortable with...a franchise and organization full of "yes" men to cater to Bron. So when threads are made like "What if Pop coached Bron" or "What if Thibs coached Bron"...that shyt would NEVER happen. When Bron is done playing the list of coaches he's played for will be hilariously abysmal...and that's exactly how he wanted it.
 

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Truthfully, they also squandered some of his prime years.

As for LeBron, he has had some pretty inept coaches his entire career.
They set him up to win 3 rings as soon as he entered the league :ld:

then the Lakers reputation + the fact that players actually WANT to live and play in LA set him up for the other 2

No matter what, lebron has had the worst situation out of MJ, Kobe and him
 

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Let's be real for a second...The Miami Heat and with Riley, Zo and them were the only organization with a sound structure and winning pedigree that Lebron has ever been with. Old school philosophy, old school dictatorship (Pat runs shyt) and old school mentality when it came to the power and influence a coach and players had. So Bron endured a situation he didn't like, got him a couple rings and went right back to what he wants and what he's comfortable with...a franchise and organization full of "yes" men to cater to Bron. So when threads are made like "What if Pop coached Bron" or "What if Thibs coached Bron"...that shyt would NEVER happen. When Bron is done playing the list of coaches he's played for will be hilariously abysmal...and that's exactly how he wanted it.



Yea lebron had it made in miami but he wanted to "come home"
 

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They set him up to win 3 rings as soon as he entered the league :ld:

then the Lakers reputation + the fact that players actually WANT to live and play in LA set him up for the other 2

No matter what, lebron has had the worst situation out of MJ, Kobe and him

Completely agree. I still contend that LeBron taking Cleveland to Finals twice is one of greatest NBA achievements to date.
 

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Completely agree. I still contend that LeBron taking Cleveland to Finals twice is one of greatest NBA achievements to date.
Agreed, 07 was just an out of this world accomplishment
yea he lost to the spurs, but this is a 22yr old scoring 25 straight points against a great pistons team and making it to the finals with an organization who had no clue how to win a championship :wow:
 

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Completely agree. I still contend that LeBron taking Cleveland to Finals twice is one of greatest NBA achievements to date.

These idiots don't know that outside of MJ and Duncan no one has won more than 4 or more rings playing their whole career with the team that drafted them.....unless that team was the Lakers or Celtics.

Then on top of that MJ was blessed to have Pip and Duncan was blessed to have Robinson.

Not to mention Lebron is playing for a team and in a city that ain't won shyt for 50 years. The team was so horrible for years even before he got their. The team was so bad that the league introduced a rule about trading 1st found picks.

The Cavs have been the laughing stock of the league for years outside those Daughty and price years.

Only thing that Lebron fukked up was he should have pulled a Kobe and told the Cavs before the draft he didn't want to play for them and to trade him go LA or the Celtics.
 
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