Rick Ross Responds to N.O. Rapper Dee-1 After Being Told He "Can Do Better"; Dee-1 Responds "You Talking About Donating 🦃's And I'm Talking Lyrics!"

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if the music sucks, why do we care what his opinion is?

I’m tired of people who can’t do their day job being mad at others doing theirs.

Again, Dee-1 isn't commenting about Ross, Jim or Meek over a beat. Why does it matter that he's not a good rapper if he's not using rap as a vehicle to critique those guys in this instance?

You basically keep saying: "Ok but he no rap good", ok Nap, he's an awful rapper, move to the next point.
 

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Again, Dee-1 isn't commenting about Ross, Jim or Meek over a beat. Why does it matter that he's not a good rapper if he's not using rap as a vehicle to critique those guys in this instance?

You basically keep saying: "Ok but he no rap good", ok Nap, he's an awful rapper, move to the next point.
I dont respect this critique coming form HIM.

So yes, I’m judging the messenger.

This is what Joe Budden was saying. If you’re IN THE GAME, you need to actually be better at your job because you can’t make no effort critiques when you’re in a position to actually change things.

Dee-1 is getting MORE PRESS NOW than he EVER has. With NOTHING to show for it.

 

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I dont respect this critique coming form HIM.

So yes, I’m judging the messenger.

This is what Joe Budden was saying. If you’re IN THE GAME, you need to actually be better at your job because you can’t make no effort critiques when you’re in a position to actually change things.

Dee-1 is getting MORE PRESS NOW than he EVER has. With NOTHING to show for it.



Did you watch this video, Queensflip cowardly retreated to the "but it's just music" talking point when met with an argument he couldn't address with sound logic. Dee 1 didn't put any of those guys down, he bent over backwards damn near to couch his commentary in love and respect.

It's rich that Joe's entire podcast centers around doing exactly what Dee-1 did, giving some commentary about some so-called entertainers and he believe Dee-1 shouldn't have invoked names.

Clown shyt and I enjoy Joe's content.
 

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Did you watch this video, Queensflip cowardly retreated to the "but it's just music" talking point when met with an argument he couldn't address with sound logic. Dee 1 didn't put any of those guys down, he bent over backwards damn near to couch his commentary in love and respect.

It's rich that Joe's entire podcast centers around doing exactly what Dee-1 did, giving some commentary about some so-called entertainers and he believe Dee-1 shouldn't have invoked names.

Clown shyt and I enjoy Joe's content.
Listen to the podcast. I did.

Joe was making the point I’m saying in the full flip at 1:48:10



Dee-1 even spit a little freestyle on here and it was…trash.

Start at 21:00:



:francis:
 

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Did you watch this video, Queensflip cowardly retreated to the "but it's just music" talking point when met with an argument he couldn't address with sound logic. Dee 1 didn't put any of those guys down, he bent over backwards damn near to couch his commentary in love and respect.

It's rich that Joe's entire podcast centers around doing exactly what Dee-1 did, giving some commentary about some so-called entertainers and he believe Dee-1 shouldn't have invoked names.

Clown shyt and I enjoy Joe's content.
I don't think there's anything wrong with what Dee 1 said but one thing I got a problem with is the lazy "blame the rapper" narrative, especially coming from the same people who consume the same type of music for decades.

Rap is just music and entertainment. Why are rappers being blamed for poisoning the community when they aren't even the ones making the most money from it? The success of Meek, Ross, Jim Jones etc is a product of marketing dollars spent by the 3 big record labels.

The video game industry makes more money than rap. Call of Duty and GTA especially is where children learn about different guns but why does no one blame them for that? I have a lot of friends that's been to prison and none of them was influenced to sell drugs or hurt people cause of rap
 

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Ross isn’t the one to go to, he doesn’t hold any sway. Go to the stars of rap holding the draco laser beam in the wshh production value music videos. but that isn’t going to happen. its much easier crying about meek, Ross & whatever else trends in hip hop culture. That’s the reality. :sas2:



"He could've called out Gates, Mac, Fedo Bang... etc.

I literally watched him get on stage months ago in HOB and tell the audience Mac is his favorite rapper.

Mac's material glorifies the same things he's chastising other rappers for."

These are interesting points, I would like to see the Dee-1 dude address them, if he hasn't already.
 

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I don't think there's anything wrong with what Dee 1 said but one thing I got a problem with is the lazy "blame the rapper" narrative, especially coming from the same people who consume the same type of music for decades.

Rap is just music and entertainment. Why are rappers being blamed for poisoning the community when they aren't even the ones making the most money from it? The success of Meek, Ross, Jim Jones etc is a product of marketing dollars spent by the 3 big record labels.

The video game industry makes more money than rap. Call of Duty and GTA especially is where children learn about different guns but why does no one blame them for that? I have a lot of friends that's been to prison and none of them was influenced to sell drugs or hurt people cause of rap
Just like movies, once the game is off, it's over. The head of Rockstar or the voice actor for the MC isn't out here telling you how real it is and playing the role 24/7 and not being themselves. They have to take SOME blame.
 

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Just like movies, once the game is off, it's over. The head of Rockstar or the voice actor for the MC isn't out here telling you how real it is and playing the role 24/7 and not being themselves. They have to take SOME blame.
But isn't that Ross and Jim Jones whole point? When the music's off they're doing things for their community in real life (so they claim)

I'm just being objective here :yeshrug:
 

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But isn't that Ross and Jim Jones whole point? When the music's off they're doing things for their community in real life (so they claim)

I'm just being objective here :yeshrug:
They don't promote and glorify that until they need to hide behind it to deflect. All they talk about on the regular is gang shyt, violence and bullshyt in the name of money. Aside from Jim's time on Love and Hip-Hop, neither of them is EVER out of character. They front and act tough all the time, and make no distinction between "entertainment" and real criminality until there's pushback.
 
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