Richard Dawkins "I'm A Cultural Christian", problems with Islam and Christianity

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No religion has clean hands but Islam is still being used today to enslave and kill black people in 2024.
The only countries you can buy black slaves openly today are Muslim countries.
The Trans-Saharan slave trade, also known as the Arab slave trade, was a slave trade in which slaves were mainly transported across the Sahara. Most were moved from sub-Saharan Africato North Africa to be sold to Mediterranean and Middle Eastern civilizations; a small percentage went the other direction.Estimates of the total number of black slaves moved from sub-Saharan Africa to the Arab world range from 6-10 million, and the trans-Saharan trade routes conveyed a significant number of this total, with one estimate tallying around 7.2 million slaves crossing the Sahara from the mid-7th century until the 20th century when it was abolished. The Arabsmanaged and operated the trans-Saharan slave trade, although Berbers were also actively involved.[8] Alongside Black Africans, Turks, Iranians, Europeans and Berbers were among the people traded by the Arabs, with the trade being practised throughout the Arab world, primarily in Western Asia, North Africa, East Africa, and Europe.

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1.2 million slaves are estimated to have been sent through the Sahara in the 19th century. In the 1830s, a period when slave trade flourished, Ghadames was handling 2,500 slaves a year. Even though the slave trade was officially abolished in Tripoli in 1853, in practice it continued until the 1890s. One witness to the behavior of the slave dealers, G.F. Lyon, described their behavior in Libya:

None of the owners were ever without their whips which were in constant use...no slave dares to be ill or unable to walk, but when the poor sufferer dies the master suspects there must have been "something wrong inside" and regrets not having liberally applied the usual remedy of burning the belly with a red hot iron" thus reconciling to themselves their cruel treatment of these unfortunate creatures.[56]


Adolf Vischer wrote in an article published in 1911 that: "...it has been said that slave traffic is still going on on the Benghazi-Wadai route, but it is difficult to test the truth of such an assertion as, in any case, the traffic is carried on secretly". At Kufra, the Egyptian traveller Ahmed Hassanein Beyfound out in 1916 that he could buy a girl slave for five pounds sterling while in 1923 he found that the price had risen to 30 to 40 pounds sterling Another traveler, the Danish convert to Islam Knud Holmboe, crossed the Italian Libyan desert in 1930, and was told that slavery is still practiced in Kufra and that he could buy a slave girl for 30 pounds sterling at the Thursday slave market. According to James Richardson's testimony, when he visited Ghadames, most slaves were from Bornu. According to Raëd Bader, based on estimates of the Trans-Saharan trade, between 1700 and 1880 Tunisia received 100,000 black slaves, compared to only 65,000 entering Algeria, 400,000 in Libya, 515,000 in Morocco and 800,000 in Egypt.


 

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Christianity created stable, safe, moral, content societies. Religion is more than belief of something, it’s typically the bedrock of society. It’s why Black Americans were able to organize successful
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You have to be a cac.

Christianity literally the justification used to enslave Africans.
Christianity literally the justification used to colonize Africa.


Boy kill yaself.
 

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He’s not doing it to “pay the bills”. Dawkins has been flirting with this topic for awhile now.

What’s happening is he’s seeing the truth for what it is: Christianity created stable, safe, moral, content societies. Religion is more than belief of something, it’s typically the bedrock of society. It’s why Black Americans were able to organize successful movements during the most hostile years in the country: we went to church, we built our community AROUND church, our standards came from the church. That’s when everyone walked around with their head high and with dignity.

Dawkins always wanted to push against the “God” aspect in religion, not realizing that it’s far more than that. Everyone believes in something will ALWAYS believe in something. Christianity created order, unity and peace of mind for the members of the community that practiced.

He wanted to destroy that because “God” is offensive to him. Now he got his wish, less people believe in the Christian God and therefore allowed Islam to rise and spread rapidly. He’s seeing what we are all seeing, though many scared to admit: Islam creates hostility, anti-women tropes, and increase violence. Islam followers are known for their “backwards” interpretation and implantation of their ideologies.

Dawkins sees this is reminisces on the benefits he got by living in a Christian society.

You can pull up endless youtube vids of Dawkins shytting on Christianity's flaws, from the anti-science sentiments to the political encroachment on social issues to the anti-intellectual obsession. He's making this shift now because the biggest market to cater to are white nationalists who want a white Christian ethnostate.

It's funny you bring up the black church of the past as if the white church of the past wasn't actively working against it. All that discrimination, violence, and bigotry was coming from white Christians in the south. Let's not act like this is some perfect religion that never did anything wrong. Christianity's violence and bigotry are well documented. Just because you get to point to Muslims blowing up buildings doesn't mean we should forget about slavery, manifest destiny, and all the other Christian fukkery in this country's history. Not to mention the Crusades and other shyt in world history.
 

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America has the most slaves in the world, they just hide them in the prison system. I wonder what group of men the prison system focuses on the most?
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Wrong. Even if equate prison labor with slavery, still wrong.


An estimated 50 million people were living in modern slavery as of 2021, according to the Walk Free's flagship report Global Slavery Index 2023. North Korea is the country with the highest rate of people experiencing modern slavery in 2023, with as many as 104 people living under these conditions out of every 1,000 inhabitants. It is followed by Eritrea with 90 people per 1,000 inhabitants, Mauritania with 32 per 1,000 and Saudi Arabia with 21 per 1,000.

In terms of the largest estimated absolute numbers though, India ranks first (11,050,000 people in modern slavery), followed by China (5,771,000), North Korea (2,696,000), Pakistan (2,349,000), Russia (1,899,000), Indonesia (1,833,000) and Nigeria (1,611,000).

Modern slavery includes forced labor, debt bondage, forced marriage, slavery and slavery-like practices, and human trafficking.

 

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America has the most slaves in the world?
Where did you go to high school? Stop disgracing your HS teacher with that statement.
This one believes the Hapsburgs and all medieval monarchies were Black and other goofy shyt like gothic architecture being alien technology we can’t replicate today. I doubt he graduated any school.
 

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It was you who made the claim Islam is a peaceful religion. We have evidence for years proving otherwise. Your sects can't even get along and they are supposed to be Muslim.
It is it's not a claim there billion Muslims on earth they all fukked up right because you listen to American propaganda.
 

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It is it's not a claim there billion Muslims on earth they all fukked up right because you listen to American propaganda.
Who made the claim that all Muslims are terrorists? You are creating a strawman.

The religion produces many radical groups.
These are just facts. It's anything but peaceful.
 

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It's very funny.

They will blame "Islam" for the world's conflicts not realizing that America funded the mujahadeen in Afghanistan and the Al Qaeda off-shoot Al Nusra in Syria.

We'll soon find out how America's proxies like the UAE are funding ISIS-K, which killed dozens in Moscow a few weeks ago
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And let's not even discuss Saudi Arabia



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It’s the same playbook every time and they still can’t see it. Ex: Support Sadam Hussein into power, when he doesn’t play ball anymore(or isn’t useful), take him out.. Regan supporting drug cartels in South America while on the other hand starting the “war on Drugs” in America. America often supports/creates the boogeyman before telling them that they should be scared of the boogeyman and they fall for it everytime
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