Richard Dawkins doesn't condemn the perpetrator who molested him as a child

[mbewane]

Its one thing to forgive the person but to downplay the act as mild pedophillia isn't just simple forgiveness.

I'm saying, he's the guy that was being touched, not me, not you.

If he feels it's "mild paedophilia" to have had his penis touched as opposed to being sodomized every night, who are we to argue with him.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

So him being a victim makes him downplaying the violation as mild pedophillia not wrong at all?

Lots of victims of kidnapping and abuse forgive and downplay acts perpetrated by their abusers all the time

You can't ever expect him to be objective about it

Still though no matter what came out of his mouth, you still compared it to raping children and that makes you either dumb or just kind of an a$$hole

 

[Blackout]

I'm saying, he's the guy that was being touched, not me, not you.

If he feels it's "mild paedophilia" to have had his penis touched as opposed to being sodomized every night, who are we to argue with him.

Its still wrong at the end of the day to think being touched by a teach is mild pedophillia.

Lots of victims of kidnapping and abuse forgive and downplay acts perpetrated by their abusers all the time

You can't ever expect him to be objective about it

Still though no matter what came out of his mouth, you still compared it to raping children and that makes you either dumb or just kind of an @sshole

To him those catholic priests who touch little boys are mild pedophillia.

I consider enablers as bad as the crime commiters in this case since he is an adult saying this.

 

[mbewane]

Its still wrong at the end of the day to think being touched by a teach is mild pedophillia.

And who are you to tell a victim what he/she should be thinking?

 

[Blackout]

And who are you to tell a victim what he/she should be thinking?

I'm not telling him what he should be thinking. He is a victim as you said.

But that doesn't change the fact that what he said is wrong.

But hey go ahead and leave him like that just give up on him ever recovering.

 

[the cac mamba]

i mean if i got molested, there are things that i would rather have done to me than other things

 

[mbewane]

I'm not telling him what he should be thinking. He is a victim as you said.

But that doesn't change the fact that what he said is wrong.

But hey go ahead and leave him like that just give up on him ever recovering.

So basically you're saying that he can think about his own ordeal as he pleases, as long as he knows that the way he thinks about it is wrong. All rightie.

And what do you mean by "recovering"? Dude's an acclaimed (albeit somewhat controversial) intellectual all over the world, I think he's doing ok for himself.

 

[Blackout]

So basically you're saying that he can think about his own ordeal as he pleases, as long as he knows that the way he thinks about it is wrong. All rightie.

And what do you mean by "recovering"? Dude's an acclaimed (albeit somewhat controversial) intellectual all over the world, I think he's doing ok for himself.

I'm saying that he needs to be aware that what he is thinking is wrong and understand why its wrong so he can join the same world and start thinking its wrong as well.

He needs mental help and you guys who are saying of he is a victim amd he said some smart things so leave him alone isn't helping.

He has a problem and needs mental help. That is a fact.

If you think that him thinking that an older male touching his penis when he was younger is nothing but "mild pedophillia" is doing ok for himself then you have issues too.

 

[mbewane]

I'm saying that he needs to be aware that what he is thinking is wrong and understand why its wrong.

He needs mental help you you guys who are saying of he is a victim leave him be isn't helping.

If you think that thinking that a older male touching your penis when you were younger is nothing but "mild pedophillia" is doing ok for yourself then you have issues too.

Breh, maybe I didn't make myself clear.

FOR ME, any form of paedophilia is wrong. That's obvious, and not even the subject of this thread.

NOW, IF AN ACTUAL VICTIM (which I am not) says that what HE has suffered of is "mild", who am I to argue with that? Why do you want to convince HIM that what HE suffered is worse than the way HE feels about it? People have their own copping systems, and given his career you can hardly argue that dude has been crippled for life by what happened to him. Hell, he might know other boys in the same school who had it worse than him, and maybe he's saying that what happened to HIM isn't as bad as what happened to those other boys.

Again, it's baffling to me that you feel the need to tell a victim that the way he sees his ordeal is "wrong". Dude isn't 12 years old, he's had time to think about it. Dude's doing lectures all over the world but yeah, I guess you know him better than he does lol

 

[Blackout]

Breh, maybe I didn't make myself clear.

FOR ME, any form of paedophilia is wrong. That's obvious, and not even the subject of this thread.

NOW, IF AN ACTUAL VICTIM (which I am not) says that what HE has suffered of is "mild", who am I to argue with that? Why do you want to convince HIM that what HE suffered is worse than the way HE feels about it? People have their own copping systems, and given his career you can hardly argue that dude has been crippled for life by what happened to him. Hell, he might know other boys in the same school who had it worse than him, and maybe he's saying that what happened to HIM isn't as bad as what happened to those other boys.

Again, it's baffling to me that you feel the need to tell a victim that the way he sees his ordeal is "wrong". Dude isn't 12 years old, he's had time to think about it. Dude's doing lectures all over the world but yeah, I guess you know him better than he does lol

I am not telling him anything. You don't see me sending him emails or making phone calls or making any effort to contact him.

I am just stating the fact that his thoughts are wrong. He may feel otherwise and think otherwise because as you said he is a victim but to any sane person his thoughts are WRONG. We shouldn't just not do anything because he is a victim we should address the issue and see that he gets the mental help that he clearly needs.

The person who violated him is wrong. FACT
He thoughts that are downplaying the violation are wrong. FACT
He needs mental help. FACT

Its baffling to me that you would find an issue with someone addressing his issue and recommending a solution.

Its all about you isn't it. Oh let's leave him alone because he goes against the religious and this issue will make him look bad and what not but when do you think about him and his own needs?

 

[mbewane]

I am not telling him anything. You don't see me sending him emails or making phone calls or making any effort to contact him.

I am just stating the fact that his thoughts are wrong. He may feel otherwise and think otherwise because as you said he is a victim but to any sane person his thoughts are WRONG. We shouldn't just not do anything because he is a victim we should address the issue and see that he gets the mental help that he clearly needs.

The person who violated him is wrong. FACT
He thoughts that are downplaying the violation are wrong. FACT
He needs mental help. FACT

Its baffling to me that you would find an issue with someone addressing his issue and recommending a solution.

Its all about you isn't it. Oh let's leave him alone because he goes against the religious and this issue will make him look bad and what not but when do you think about him and his own needs?

What's this got to do with anything?

NVM breh, I get it. You're right, he's wrong, we need to get Richard Dawkins mental help. Clearly he hasn't been coping with this whole thing well, as evidenced by his bum life.

 

[Blackout]

What's this got to do with anything?

NVM breh, I get it. You're right, he's wrong, we need to get Richard Dawkins mental help. Clearly he hasn't been coping with this whole thing well, as evidenced by his bum life.

I'm focused on this ordeal. Clearly he carried this issue with him all of his life and him actually getting mental help and fixing this issue would actually benefit him more than hurt him.

But you go ahead and keep on thinking that I want to do everything but help him.

 

[Type Username Here]

The comments he made are irresponsible and dangerous in my opinion.

 

[mbewane]

I'm focused on this ordeal. Clearly he carried this issue with him all of his life and him actually getting mental help and fixing this issue would actually benefit him more than hurt him.

But you go ahead and keep on thinking that I want to do everything but help him.

What in the world makes you think that Richard fukking Dawkins needs help? Seriously? Where do you get it from? Did you see something, read something about him that made you think "This guy is not going that well"? Dude has been hugely successful in life, is one of the world's foremost intellectuals, is respected all over the globe, yet you've diagnosed that he needs help?

My guess would be he's had ample time to think about it, has had (IF HE WANTED TO) ample access to the best therapists in the world and has reached his own conclusion. Seriously, who's to say that he HASN'T been getting help? You think such an intellectual hasn't been thinking about this thing for years?

Dude's found his peace. Fortunately, it happens.

 

[Blackout]

What in the world makes you think that Richard fukking Dawkins needs help? Seriously? Where do you get it from? Did you see something, read something about him that made you think "This guy is not going that well"? Dude has been hugely successful in life, is one of the world's foremost intellectuals, is respected all over the globe, yet you've diagnosed that he needs help?

My guess would be he's had ample time to think about it, has had (IF HE WANTED TO) ample access to the best therapists in the world and has reached his own conclusion. Seriously, who's to say that he HASN'T been getting help? You think such an intellectual hasn't been thinking about this thing for years?

Dude's found his peace. Fortunately, it happens.

I think that his comments about his violation as mentioned in this article clearly shows that he needs help.

The fact that he is famous and respected is how this issue has gone unnoticed for so long.

A sane mind is more valuable than fame or recognition.