Rex Ryan voted most overrated coach. Beli voted 2nd most overrated.

[yseJ]

Belly brings a certain attitude with him....as a player there you're either all about football or you are gone. But at the same time without Brady, who knows what his legacy is. He's been the constant during Belly's rise to greatness.

belli is the main reason behind those giants superbowl wins in the late 80s early 90s
his rise to greatness happened long before brady, he alread was one of the best defensive coordinators in the history of the nfl before brady won his first ring

you can argue his tenure with browns was meh but he still built their D well. still the only #1 ranked defense (in points) browns has had in their modern history, is under beli

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Well Beli is indeed overrated a bit, I mean everyone acts like he is some kind of draft genius when he's been kind of hit or miss the last few years.

Obviously he hit in 2010 with Gronk/Hernandez but looking at other picks...

Tavon Wilson 2nd round 2012
Ras-I Dowling 2nd round 2011
Devin McCourty 1st round 2010
Ron Brace 2nd round 2009
Darius Butler 2nd round 2009

even Pat Chung is kind of

A couple problems with this.... first, it's not true. He's been getting heavily criticized over thelastfew years for, not being hit or miss, but being a downright poor drafter. Secondly, we're talking about coaching... he gets it done there despite his terrible drafting.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

What's dumb.

He hasn't one since Spygate.

Gotta love that intentional comedy.... this is just stupid.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Gotta love that intentional comedy.... this is just stupid.

Won one, but thank you grammar police.

Has he, or has he failed in the big spot ever since they found out he was spying on opposing teams?

He is supposed to be a defensive genius but he let Sanchez & the Jets beat him in the playoffs

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Won one, but thank you grammar police.

Has he, or has he failed in the big spot ever since they found out he was spying on opposing teams?

He is supposed to be a defensive genius but he let Sanchez & the Jets beat him in the playoffs

It ain't just the typo, it's the idiocy of the post.

Start at the use of spygate as the delineating point and see if you can figure it out from there. You probably can't, but the comedy shall ensue.

 

[L&HH]

What's dumb.

He hasn't one since Spygate.

His defense was historically bad in 2011.

He abandoned the run a few years back, having Brady throw 45+ a game

His playoff run was a gift in Tebow, and then the Ravens losing the title game, then again getting dropped by Coughlin.

What is dumb about anything I said there, that's all FACTS, I apologize if it hurts your feelings, but that doesn't change anything

Correlation does not imply causation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But I think you're with that one.

You speak on his defense being bad and lack of run game yet they consistently win their division and he's been to 5 Super Bows and was two miracle catches away from winning 5 Super bowls.

Belicheck is arguably the greatest coach in all of sports for the last 15 years or so. Dude is not overrated in the least sense of the word. As a Skins fan I'd trade every player, coach, except RG3 on our staff for Belicheck. And Mike Tomlin's on the list as well, the list is

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

As a Skins fan I'd trade every player, coach, except RG3 on our staff for Belicheck. And Mike Tomlin's on the list as well, the list is

This explains everything.

Just because your franchise is desperate doesn't mean Belichik would make you guys contenders.

Pair Belichik with Campbell for them years and see how great he would have done.

 

[gho3st]

Nah Belichick is on that List ccause he dont like paying niccas.

 

[Regular_P]

It pains me to say this, but I agree with Last Emp and all the points he made, I was gonna post.

Beli's gonna have to win a Super Bowl post-Spygate for me to put him on top of the perch again or near it. That division has been cheeks for years too.