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A lot of the characters was just doing dumb shyt that made no sense...:mindblown:

CBG19 covers this in her review. Basically the deleted scenes explain a lot of the :wtf: moments but for some reason there's no extended cut??

I own the Blu Ray now and it's still a great watch to me. Not a classic but still very good and has plenty of replay value. I'd welcome a sequel. :manny:

Also, CBG19 is not a lesbian. I'd fukk.
 

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You're talking about two different things.

Super heroes are common in Marvel comics....so Spider-Man doing a bunch of crazy shyt isn't implausible. It's an accepted part of that fictional universe.

There is no reason to think (for example) scientists would act like complete fukking morons in the "Alien" series of movies. There's no precedent for it. And it has nothing to do with the sci-fi aspects of the story, either.

You're acting like suspend disbelief = accept anything that appears on screen, regardless of logic or context. That's not how it works. There's several elements to "Game Of Thrones" that are completely unrealistic, but they're embedded in the story. Nobody gives a second glance to a dragon, or a shadow baby.

On the other hand "Breaking Bad" had several unrealistic scenes....but if a dragon popped up you damn well better have the sense to call bullshyt on it. Nobody in their right mind would sit there like :manny: "eh, it's all fiction".

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I'm not trying to justify how dumb some of the scientists act in Prometheus, but in Alien some dumb fukking scientist decided to fukk with the eggs (literally sitting and staring down into the egg pod) which led to a face hugger eating his face/helmet. But nobody complained about that :sas2:
 

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I'm not trying to justify how dumb some of the scientists act in Prometheus, but in Alien some dumb fukking scientist decided to fukk with the eggs (literally sitting and staring down into the egg pod) which led to a face hugger eating his face/helmet. But nobody complained about that :sas2:

But that was way back in the 80's nikka

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I'm not trying to justify how dumb some of the scientists act in Prometheus, but in Alien some dumb fukking scientist decided to fukk with the eggs (literally sitting and staring down into the egg pod) which led to a face hugger eating his face/helmet. But nobody complained about that :sas2:

Kane was a recovering drug addict though. It's in the crew dossier for the "Alien Anthology" Blu-Ray.

Maybe the entire cast of "Prometheus" was drug addicts, too. :sas1:

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I'm not trying to justify how dumb some of the scientists act in Prometheus, but in Alien some dumb fukking scientist decided to fukk with the eggs (literally sitting and staring down into the egg pod) which led to a face hugger eating his face/helmet. But nobody complained about that :sas2:

Well they also didn't have a scene or line of dialogue prior to that where they acted as if they weren't touching anything and just wanted to go home or knew better not to
 

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Kane was a recovering drug addict though. It's in the crew dossier for the "Alien Anthology" Blu-Ray.
Did they explicitly state that in the movie though? :comeon:

Maybe the entire cast of "Prometheus" was drug addicts, too. :sas1:

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I totally agree their overall stupidity (outside of the one scene we're speaking about) was way more in totality but I always thought it was funny that people conveniently forget that basically the same thing happens in Alien in the egg room.

This movie has obvious flaws (and Lindelof :scust:) but visually it is incredible, I love the exploration of the ancient astronaut subject, and to be honest, I'm an atheist but for some reason the whole Jesus tie in thing worked for me and I thought it was a really cool idea. Fassbender provided one of my favorite sci-fi performances and essentially carried this movie, without him there is no way I like this movie even close to as much as I did. Plus the engineers looked cool as fukk.
 

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I blame Lindelof :scust: I'm absolutely puzzled to why they didn't stick with the Jon Spaights script...

Yeah that shyt is insane. it's one thing to have characters act stupid but to have them directly do something they said they wouldn't from one scene to the next and have it not be played for comedy is crazy
 

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Yeah that shyt is insane. it's one thing to have characters act stupid but to have them directly do something they said they wouldn't from one scene to the next and have it not be played for comedy is crazy
Yup. I feel like those jarring inconsistencies are stuff that happen during rewrites. I would honestly love to hear why Ridley didn't stick with the script Jon Spaights wrote, as it was fantastic.
 

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Overall though, the ideas this movie tackles, the atmosphere Ridley creates, the designs of the engineers, the cinematography, and Fassbender's incredible performance elevate this movie a lot. The good really outweighs the bad in my opinion. I honestly actually liked that the movie was intentionally mysterious/unexplained despite still my disdain for lindelof. They could've easily kept most of Spaights script in tact and made slight changes to create a true universal scifi classic. Why the fukk did they make it a quasi-prequel? In the spaights script it was a direct prequel and it was logical. Despite all that, I still love this movie and will stan for it til the day I die :mjcry:
 

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Did they explicitly state that in the movie though? :comeon:


I totally agree their overall stupidity (outside of the one scene we're speaking about) was way more in totality but I always thought it was funny that people conveniently forget that basically the same thing happens in Alien in the egg room.

This movie has obvious flaws (and Lindelof :scust:) but visually it is incredible, I love the exploration of the ancient astronaut subject, and to be honest, I'm an atheist but for some reason the whole Jesus tie in thing worked for me and I thought it was a really cool idea. Fassbender provided one of my favorite sci-fi performances and essentially carried this movie, without him there is no way I like this movie even close to as much as I did. Plus the engineers looked cool as fukk.

Nah. But Kane did look a little shaky to me. :sas2:

Visually the movie was nice but that shouldn't be the best thing you can say about the prequel to a legendary movie like "Alien".

The sole cool part of the movie was the "aliens created life on Earth" and even then Lindelof (or whoever added that to the script) stole that from Lovecraft's "At The Mountains Of Madness".

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Nah. But Kane did look a little shaky to me. :sas2:

Visually the movie was nice but that shouldn't be the best thing you can say about the prequel to a legendary movie like "Alien".

The sole cool part of the movie was the "aliens created life on Earth" and even then Lindelof (or whoever added that to the script) stole that from Lovecraft's "At The Mountains Of Madness".

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technically it wasn't a prequel :mjcry: :mjcry: :mjcry: (even though it should have officially been :upsetfavre: :upsetfavre:)

the aliens created life on earth thing was always in the original script Jon Spaights wrote, even if Lovecraft used the same idea in At The Mountains of Madness that idea has been around for a very long time in human cultures everywhere. I don't think that should be perceived as a slight.

Am I the only one for whom the "jesus was an engineer" thing actually worked for? Maybe it's because of my disdain or total apathy for religion found it an interesting spin on the whole thing. Overall I just felt like it tackled a lot of ideas that haven't even been explored (to my knowledge) in scifi cinema before and was very ambitious in that respect. Obviously I'm a huge cinematography head and the visuals and atmosphere of ancient mystery Ridley created do a lot for me, but from a performance standpoint Fassbender was incredible no? Again, I just feel like the good of this movie heavily outweigh the bad, but I also realized that my opinion is biased towards liking the movie.
 
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technically it wasn't a prequel :mjcry: :mjcry: :mjcry: (even though it should have officially been :upsetfavre: :upsetfavre:)

the aliens created life on earth thing was always in the original script Jon Spaights wrote, even if Lovecraft used the same idea in At The Mountains of Madness that idea has been around for a very long time in human cultures everywhere. I don't think that should be perceived as a slight.

Am I the only one for whom the "jesus was an engineer" thing actually worked for? Maybe it's because of my disdain or total apathy for religion found it an interesting spin on the whole thing. Overall I just felt like it tackled a lot of ideas that haven't even been explored (to my knowledge) in scifi cinema before and was very ambitious in that respect. Obviously I'm a huge cinematography head and the visuals and atmosphere of ancient mystery Ridley created do a lot for me, but from a performance standpoint Fassbender was incredible no? Again, I just feel like the good of this movie heavily outweigh the bad, but I also realized that my opinion is biased towards liking the movie.

I thought the "Jesus was an engineer" angle was cool but it was under baked. That should've been a central focus of the movie.

As far as Lovecraft, he wrote that in 1931. Not saying the idea didn't exist prior to that story, but as far as putting it in fiction and developing an entire mythology around it, he was one of if not the first to do it. The only other horror author more influential is probably Poe.

Fred.
 
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