Revealed: Israeli spy chief ‘threatened’ ICC prosecutor over war crimes inquiry

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That's insane. And the US isn't saying anything about it? Europe isn't anything about it? The West isn't saying anything about it? The UN isn't saying anything about it? :mjtf:

shyt like this is how #BothSides has any legitimacy. :scust:
 

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The ICC is performative. Not sure why y’all expect the US or any world power to actually care what they do.

It goes against a nation’s fundamental autonomy and they aren’t very successful.

In 22 years they’ve only managed 10 convictions and have had no sway on human rights abuses.

Further, both the US and Israel have said from jump they have no obligations to its oversight. Hence, why I’ve stressed numerous times it’s performative and meaningless here.

Dark fact, Sudan doesn’t recognize them either :manny:.


But somehow TikTok has convinced folks they’re going to do something of value here.
 

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The ICC is performative. Not sure why y’all expect the US or any world power to actually care what they do.

It goes against a nation’s fundamental autonomy and they aren’t very successful.

In 22 years they’ve only managed 10 convictions and have had no sway on human rights abuses.


Further, both the US and Israel have said from jump they have no obligations to its oversight. Hence, why I’ve stressed numerous times it’s performative and meaningless here.

Dark fact, Sudan doesn’t recognize them either :manny:.


But somehow TikTok has convinced folks they’re going to do something of value here.

I have also found this really interesting. Right or wrong over the years I've found people generally arguing against the ICC being used particularly in ktl/hl.


Were you aware that when al-Bashir visited South Africa(an ICC member) several years ago under ICC indictment South Africa refused to arrest him?



Not a lot of people seem interested in what is happening in Sudan on this forum. I wonder why.
 

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That's insane. And the US isn't saying anything about it? Europe isn't anything about it? The West isn't saying anything about it? The UN isn't saying anything about it? :mjtf:

shyt like this is how #BothSides has any legitimacy. :scust:
It’s looking more and more like the US is Israel’s bytch
 

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The ICC is performative. Not sure why y’all expect the US or any world power to actually care what they do.

It goes against a nation’s fundamental autonomy and they aren’t very successful.

In 22 years they’ve only managed 10 convictions and have had no sway on human rights abuses.

Further, both the US and Israel have said from jump they have no obligations to its oversight. Hence, why I’ve stressed numerous times it’s performative and meaningless here.

Dark fact, Sudan doesn’t recognize them either :manny:.


But somehow TikTok has convinced folks they’re going to do something of value here.

If Israel didn't care about the ICC, explain why the Mossad chief is sneaking into the hotel room of the chief prosecutor and coordinating with the President of DRC.

If the US didn't care, why would they cheer it when it got arrest warrants for Putin and now we have Congress mobilizing to sanction the ICC cause Israeli leaders are about to be subject to arrests?

This is all on reputational damage which apparently sort of matters in international relations.
 

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If Israel didn't care about the ICC, explain why the Mossad chief is sneaking into the hotel room of the chief prosecutor and coordinating with the President of DRC.

If the US didn't care, why would they cheer it when it got arrest warrants for Putin and now we have Congress mobilizing to sanction the ICC cause Israeli leaders are about to be subject to arrests?

This is all on reputational damage which apparently sort of matters in international relations.
Look. We’ve done this before.

We’ve discussed South Africa leaving the ICC after refusing arrests Al-Bashir then rejoining.

We’ve discussed the US closing the PLO office under Bolton.

We’ve discussed the provision that required the US to close that office because the US felt going to the ICC would harm rather than help negotiations for a two state solution under Obama.

No one is threatened by them because they have spies doing spy shyt.

Ultimately, I’ll leave you with your own words though.
Its true. But this is Israel we are talking about, they can have resolutions, figureheads be put on the ICC, and they'll still do what they do. International law doesn't mean a damn thing.
 

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Look. We’ve done this before.

We’ve discussed South Africa leaving the ICC after refusing arrests Al-Bashir then rejoining.

We’ve discussed the US closing the PLO office under Bolton.

We’ve discussed the provision that required the US to close that office because the US felt going to the ICC would harm rather than help negotiations for a two state solution under Obama.

No one is threatened by them because they have spies doing spy shyt.

Ultimately, I’ll leave you with your own words though.
Two things can be true at the same time!
 

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Two things can be true at the same time!
Yea, Israeli can follow people hoping to discredit an organization they hate without being afraid of it. :jbhmm:

If you aren’t African the ICC ain’t doing shyt.

Seriously the US and Israel has been lock step on their disregard for the ICC. You know this. Outside of Obama we’ve been flagrant about it.
 
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The ICC is performative. Not sure why y’all expect the US or any world power to actually care what they do.

It goes against a nation’s fundamental autonomy and they aren’t very successful.

In 22 years they’ve only managed 10 convictions and have had no sway on human rights abuses.

Further, both the US and Israel have said from jump they have no obligations to its oversight. Hence, why I’ve stressed numerous times it’s performative and meaningless here.

Dark fact, Sudan doesn’t recognize them either :manny:.


But somehow TikTok has convinced folks they’re going to do something of value here.
Yeah, what the fukk does any of this have to do with Israeli spies trying to blackmail prosecutors?

This dudes is a right wing troll. He does the exact same thing those idiots do. :dead:
 
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