Report: Neville no longer under wwe contract

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Just want to put this article here about how Nielsen ratings are taken, and how it's not an accurate representation, especially for WWE:
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What is more accurate, is their youtube numbers, and I distinctly remember during that time, Enzo was doing record high numbers for 205 Live on WWE's youtube, whether it was 205 on Raw, or the 205 show itself.

The problem then is, yes you can't advertise a high flying fast paced brand, and have your champ and main focal point be the exact opposite of that. So Enzo was successful if you wanted to have that show as a one trick pony, but the rest of the segments that didn't involve him were essentially payed no regard.
But they advertised that and gave that as the product for over a year and it didn't work, no one cared or watched.

They can have different things going on with the show.
 

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Just want to put this article here about how Nielsen ratings are taken, and how it's not an accurate representation, especially for WWE:
User Data and Cookie Consent

What is more accurate, is their youtube numbers, and I distinctly remember during that time, Enzo was doing record high numbers for 205 Live on WWE's youtube, whether it was 205 on Raw, or the 205 show itself.

The problem then is, yes you can't advertise a high flying fast paced brand, and have your champ and main focal point be the exact opposite of that. So Enzo was successful if you wanted to have that show as a one trick pony, but the rest of the segments that didn't involve him were essentially payed no regard.

That's nice but those Youtube views didn't fill up the crowd for the 205 house shows or make more people watch the show on The Network. :sas1: Also we all can agree that he was a one trick pony who didn't draw where it counted.
 

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That's nice but those Youtube views didn't fill up the crowd for the 205 house shows or make more people watch the show on The Network. :sas1: Also we all can agree that he was a one trick pony who didn't draw where it counted.
If you go back a page, you will see that it did, nice ignoring of facts and talking out of your fatass again.

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That's nice but those Youtube views didn't fill up the crowd for the 205 house shows or make more people watch the show on The Network. :sas1: Also we all can agree that he was a one trick pony who didn't draw where it counted.

"Drawing where it counted". If you are pulling numbers during your segment you've done your job. One draw isn't going to get people to sit through 9 other segments of people who have no character and no storyline. It's just not. In terms of the show, it's rank 4 of 4 in terms of priority and presentation. It's already a specialty show, where you can't see a heavyweight even if you wanted. It's only still a thing cuz they put it after SD so minimal budget cost. Asking people to get on board with that much WWE programming is too much. I know I don't watch it.

1) Enzo drew
2) 205 does not
3) Enzo being a shytty wrestler mattered NONE.
 

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So the times he was in the main event of Raw they did not go lower then times when it was some Roman match or anything like that. It happened only 3 times, so the sample size is small, but the numbers dont lie.

They didnt run 205 house shows before Enzo, and they ran 2 with him as champ and drew 1900 people. So with all the other guys on 205 live, that no one cares about, including Neville, Enzo drew that many on his own lol. Who on 205 now is drawing that much if they ran them now? Drew Gulak? fukk outta here.

And @TheGreatShowtime Actually 205 live was always hovering around the 14th most watched with Neville and Enzo had it up to 7th most viewed at one point, it hasn't reached these levels since. 7 spots a huge jump, no?



All of my information is from the Wrestling Observer Radio/Newsletter/PW Torch/Enzo Interviews/Common Sense.

As an edit, Meltzer also talked about how Vince took it upon himself to start being more hands on with 205 live, when Trips was running it, and the 1st thing he wanted done was to take the belt off of Neville and on to Enzo. Vince saw money in Enzo more then anyone else that they could put on 205 live. And when Enzo has to be fired, Vince was like fukk it, you can have it back Triple H.



Again, ya'll talk out of your asses :whew:

So, this guy is supposedly a draw but he's only bringing the show he's the star of to the 7th most watched show on a streaming service behind reruns and old ass events? Going from 35 viewers to 50 viewers is a big deal?

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So, this guy is supposedly a draw but he's only bringing the show he's the star of to the 7th most watched show on a streaming service behind reruns and old ass events? Going from 35 viewers to 50 viewers is a big deal?

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Read my post above, one hot guy isn't gonna do shyt. For example, you could put Seth Rollins on 205 for a whole month and still no one will do shyt but watch his highlights on the tube. The same as they did with Enzo. Meanwhile the rest of the guys will get no views because no one cares about them. They will never be bigger than Raw, SD, or NXT, and that's already 6 hours of weekly wrestling. There are so many people on all 3 of those rosters, and then you're gonna ask people to get behind some cruiserweights on top of that?

It's cost effective original programming for the Network, but expecting it to become a talked about show just isn't gonna happen. No matter if you have Neville, Enzo, John Cena, or Braun Strowman. No matter if it's shows of straight 5 star matches. After Enzo got fired they rehauled it to be a better formatted and more action packed show, but type "top shows wwe network 2018" into google and load about 5 random weeks. It still routinely places between 5 and 10 most watched show, and sometimes not even listed.
 

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So, this guy is supposedly a draw but he's only bringing the show he's the star of to the 7th most watched show on a streaming service behind reruns and old ass events? Going from 35 viewers to 50 viewers is a big deal?

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Do you have any idea how many shows on tv/netflix would kill to go from being 14th to 7th in a week?

Do you have any idea how many millions of dollars goes into the advertising to try and get a bump like that?

You were defeated so hard that you are reaching for anything.
 

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Do you have any idea how many shows on tv/netflix would kill to go from being 14th to 7th in a week?

Do you have any idea how many millions of dollars goes into the advertising to try and get a bump like that?

You were defeated so hard that you are reaching for anything.

Netflix has 118 million subscribers, even more viewers since people share their Netflix passwords. The WWE network has 1.5 million subscribers, including paid and free subscriptions. There's a large difference making a jump like that from Netflix compared to the WWE Network. Going from 14 to 7 on the WWE Network is not an accomplishment. It's obvious you're too stupid to realize that, so keep living in your delusional world where Enzo is a draw :hhh:
 

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Netflix has 118 million subscribers, even more viewers since people share their Netflix passwords. The WWE network has 1.5 million subscribers, including paid and free subscriptions. There's a large difference making a jump like that from Netflix compared to the WWE Network. Going from 14 to 7 on the WWE Network is not an accomplishment. It's obvious you're too stupid to realize that, so keep living in your delusional world where Enzo is a draw :hhh:
You just defeating your own shyt now

Your dumbass post above says it went from 35 people watching to 50, but then you say there are 1.5 million subscribed to the WWE network, so an increase from 14 to 7 is probably hundreds of thousands of people, which is what WWE is working with, they are not Netflix.

Have you noticed how Mightyhealthy and Mrken12 stopped posting because there arguments were shot down with numbers and logic? You are too dumb to stop lol
 

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You just defeating your own shyt now

Your dumbass post above says it went from 35 people watching to 50, but then you say there are 1.5 million subscribed to the WWE network, so an increase from 14 to 7 is probably hundreds of thousands of people, which is what WWE is working with, they are not Netflix.

Have you noticed how Mightyhealthy and Mrken12 stopped posting because there arguments were shot down with numbers and logic? You are too dumb to stop lol

Jesus Christ, you are dumb.

Apparently you're too stupid to pick up on hyperboles. Obviously me saying 35 to 50 is a hyperbole of how little of an accomplishment going from 14 to 7 on the WWE Network really is. Hundreds of thousands of people won't make up a jump from 14 to 7. Maybe tens of thousands, at best. But yeah, I guess I am stupid for thinking you are intelligent to comprehend that. @MightyHealthy and @mrken12 were smart enough to realize how arguing with you is like arguing with a 12 year old.
 

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You just defeating your own shyt now

Your dumbass post above says it went from 35 people watching to 50, but then you say there are 1.5 million subscribed to the WWE network, so an increase from 14 to 7 is probably hundreds of thousands of people, which is what WWE is working with, they are not Netflix.

Have you noticed how Mightyhealthy and Mrken12 stopped posting because there arguments were shot down with numbers and logic? You are too dumb to stop lol

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Jesus Christ, you are dumb.

Apparently you're too stupid to pick up on hyperboles. Obviously me saying 35 to 50 is a hyperbole of how little of an accomplishment going from 14 to 7 on the WWE Network really is. Hundreds of thousands of people won't make up a jump from 14 to 7. Maybe tens of thousands, at best. But yeah, I guess I am stupid for thinking you are intelligent to comprehend that. @MightyHealthy and @mrken12 were smart enough to realize how arguing with you is like arguing with a 12 year old.
They knew they were losing at every turn including you with your made up shyt.

So they were smart enough? And you weren't Lmao
 

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Neville Has Reportedly Gone "Off The Grid" And Is Not Responding To Promoters - Wrestling Inc.

While Neville is reportedly free to wrestle anywhere since receiving his WWE release in August, Dave Meltzer reported in the latest issue of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter that Neville has not been responding to promoters as best as they can tell, and has essentially gone "off the grid."

PWInsider had reported that Neville was spotted in Pittsburgh around the time of his release in August. WWE sends their talent to Pittsburgh for medical testing, so the timing for that is interesting to say the least.

Neville was reportedly previously in talks with some promotions, however said that he wasn't ready to start yet due to legal issues. Will Ospreay had recently called out the former WWE Cruiserweight Champion on Twitter.

Neville had been unhappy with WWE creative and tried to get his release when he quit the company back in October of 2017. WWE officials did not grant the release when he quit because they didn't want to set a precedent where talents under contract could walk out and go to New Japan Pro Wrestling, which is where it was expected Neville would end up. Neville's contract was then frozen for ten months before his release was granted.
Hmmm :jbhmm:
 
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