Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

[Malta]

You blaming Boogie for his shytty management?

Compared to what the Jazz have built around Favors? If you replace Boogie with Favors on the Jazz they'd be an even better team as it would give them another great scorer to go along with Hayward. Favors is better defensively, but they already got Gobert and they'd be a dominant front court together(which favors/gobert should be anyways).

Highest usage rate in the NBA, ungodly amounts of turnovers and terrible shooting percentages for a big, yeah I'm blaming Boogie.


A great center would be able to lead garbage to the playoffs in a 6 year time period, enough excuses.

 

[Malta]

Charles Barkley on offense, Draymond Green on defense

 

[CantStop]

He doesn't, you keep talking raw numbers without any kind of context, he's shooting 42% from the field despite the fact he doesn't really take any jumpers or threes. He struggles vs length, his arms gonna grow anytime soon?

Tristan Thompson put up 8/7 his rookie year in less minutes, you would have been calling him the next Karl Malone if he played for the Lakers. shyt Michael Beasley posted numbers too, big deal. There's nothing about Randle that screams impact player like yall keep saying, he's a good rebounder but that's about it. His defense IS bad, and that will limit him in the future.

You keep talking like a player can't improve though.

Lol @ mentioning FG% when Porzingis shoot 42% and you never bring that up. Why is that?

Julius doesn't take jumpers?

Players improve on defense all the time.

You do realize this is his first year right?

But I forgot he's a Laker and you hate all things Laker.

Find me a player in the league other than Randle averaging 11/10 in 27 minutes. I'll wait.

 

[KOBE]

Highest usage rate in the NBA, ungodly amounts of turnovers and terrible shooting percentages for a big, yeah I'm blaming Boogie.


A great center would be able to lead garbage to the playoffs in a 6 year time period, enough excuses.

Rotating coaches.

Rotating point guards.

Two of the worst ownership groups since the 2000's.

Drafted Tyreke, Jimmer, TRob, Nik all in the top 10 and none of them are with the team anymore.


I guess Anthony Davis is next level shyt too for being on one of the worst teams in the league this year, right?

 

[Dwight Howard]

Stop it, stop using one off examples as a reason for thinking a player can do something. You did this with Okafor when you thought he'd be a Laker, saying if Marc Gasol could become a DPOY so could he. Draymond is a 1 off, his lateral quickness is part of the reason why he's such a good defender, Julius is 20lbs heavier than him so unless Randle drops some weight that aint happening. But of course, you'll always point out the one example in the league, the highest example too, not the in between but the absolute best defensive PF in the game and then try to draw a comparison


He doesn't have a high ceiling, yall muthafukkas said Charles Barkley now it's Draymond Green on defense as well apparently.

I never stated Okafor would be a DPOY, don't lie. I said he could become a decent defender, and I still believe that with proper coaching he can.

Julius is just as athletic as Draymond so its a possibility he can become a good defender like draymond. that's valid reasoning, especially considering Julius is being mentored by Ron Artest. Julius ceiling is an elite scorer in the post that's gonna grab 12+ boards each game and play decent on-ball defense. you probably don't watch Laker games like that so you don't realize how easily it is for Julius to force baskets in the post and draw fouls. he gonna be shooting 7+ ft's a game real soon

 

[Malta]

You keep talking like a player can't improve though.

Lol @ mentioning FG% when Porzingis shoot 42% and you never bring that up. Why is that?

Julius doesn't take jumpers?

Players improve on defense all the time.

You do realize this is his first year right?

But I forgot he's a Laker and you hate all things Laker.

Porzingis finishes at the rim better than Randle despite being a twig, nevermind the fact he shoots threes which lower his percentage, but why let something like logic get in the way. Julius Randle shoots 42% from the field on 2 point shots, 53% at the rim, Porzingis takes 2x as many shots from 10-16 feet as him yet still shoots a higher percentage. Do we even need to get into their defense, you wanna go there breh?


I don't care if it's his first year, outside of his rebounding I'm not really impressed with his game.

 

[Malta]

Rotating coaches.

Rotating point guards.

Two of the worst ownership groups since the 2000's.

Drafted Tyreke, Jimmer, TRob, Nik all in the top 10 and none of them are with the team anymore.


I guess Anthony Davis is next level shyt too for being on one of the worst teams in the league this year, right?

Best big man in the league, right?


6 years and hasn't made the playoffs, whose fault is it that he likes to bring the ball up the floor and make stupid passes? Whose fault is it he turns the ball over so much? Whose fault is it he's a big man in his 6th year and cant shoot over 50% from the field?

AD needs a post game, but his game isn't as big of a negative at times as Boogies can be.

 

[Malta]

I never stated Okafor would be a DPOY, don't lie. I said he could become a decent defender, and I still believe that with proper coaching he can.

Julius is just as athletic as Draymond so its a possibility he can become a good defender like draymond. that's valid reasoning, especially considering Julius is being mentored by Ron Artest. Julius ceiling is an elite scorer in the post that's gonna grab 12+ boards each game and play decent on-ball defense. you probably don't watch Laker games like that so you don't realize how easily it is for Julius to force baskets in the post and draw fouls. he gonna be shooting 7+ ft's a game real soon

He's nowhere near as quick as Draymond is laterally.


His ceiling is not "elite scorer" the fukk? So he's going to pull down 12+ rpg, be as good as Draymond defensively while also being an elite scorer? Just say he's going to be the best player in the league and a top 10 all-time player, cause that's basically what you've just described. The delusion is too much.

 

[CantStop]

Porzingis finishes at the rim better than Randle despite being a twig, nevermind the fact he shoots threes which lower his percentage, but why let something like logic get in the way. Julius Randle shoots 42% from the field on 2 point shots, 53% at the rim, Porzingis takes 2x as many shots from 10-16 feet as him yet still shoots a higher percentage. Do we even need to get into their defense, you wanna go there breh?


I don't care if it's his first year, outside of his rebounding I'm not really impressed with his game.

1) Porzingis is 7'3. No shyt, he finishes around the rim better. Stunning revelation breh.

Porzingis is in a way better position than Randle as far as opportunities. Randle is playing his first season during Kobe's farewell tour and playing for Byron Scott. Randle is struggling at the rim, so what..eventually that will get better with i don't know.... time and experience like every other player in this league. How can you judge a player on FG% when history has shown us that players improve in that regard. Randle tends to rush a lot of shots when he's near the basket so I'm not worried about that. Anyways, this thread is about Randle vs Jabari and Randle > Jabari. Don't distract me.

 

[Dwight Howard]

He's nowhere near as quick as Draymond is laterally.


His ceiling is not "elite scorer" the fukk? So he's going to be as good as Draymond defensively while also being an elite scorer? The delusion is too much.

You gotta stop putting words in my mouth. I said he could be a decent defender if draymond is. He can model his defense after draymond. Not saying he's gonna be as good as a defender. The elite scorer part is likely. His jumper is coming along and he's been shooting 49% the last 9 games. Thats growth. Once he starts getting more minutes and touches he could easily average 18+ next season and that's likely to keep increasing the more he works on his jumper. His ability to draw fouls is gonna make him a consistent scorer in this league. He's already an elite rebounder.

 

[Malta]

1) Porzingis is 7'3. No shyt, he finishes around the rim better. Stunning revelation breh.

Porzingis is in a way better position than Randle as far as opportunities. Randle is playing his first season during Kobe's farewell tour and playing for Byron Scott. Randle is struggling at the rim, so what..eventually that will get better with i don't know.... time and experience like every other player in this league. How can you judge a player on FG% when history has shown us that players improve in that regard. Randle tends to rush a lot of shots when he's near the basket so I'm not worried about that. Anyways, this thread is about Randle vs Jabari and Randle > Jabari. Don't distract me.

Porzingis isn't that great finishing around the rim right now, which is the point. I couldn't careless how tall someone is, either you better at something or you're not, I don't give Barkley brownie points for being 6'6" he couldn't play D. For big men, finishing at the rim is something you either do right away, or you don't. Derrick Favors came into the league and that's basically all he could do and the dude you always compare him to; Zach Randolph as a rookie shot 12% higher at the rim than Randle does.

You the one that brought up Kristaps, not me. He's better than Randle, so stop bringing his name up and I wont have to karate chop you with facts

 

[SchoolboyC]

Stop it, stop using one off examples as a reason for thinking a player can do something. You did this with Okafor when you thought he'd be a Laker, saying if Marc Gasol could become a DPOY so could he. Draymond is a 1 off, his lateral quickness is part of the reason why he's such a good defender, Julius is 20lbs heavier than him so unless Randle drops some weight that aint happening. But of course, you'll always point out the one example in the league, the highest example too, not the in between but the absolute best defensive PF in the game and then try to draw a comparison


He doesn't have a high ceiling, yall muthafukkas said Charles Barkley now it's Draymond Green on defense as well apparently.

To be more specific, a Barkley-Malone-Z-Bo hybrid

 

[Bilz]

Porzingis finishes at the rim better than Randle despite being a twig, nevermind the fact he shoots threes which lower his percentage, but why let something like logic get in the way. Julius Randle shoots 42% from the field on 2 point shots, 53% at the rim, Porzingis takes 2x as many shots from 10-16 feet as him yet still shoots a higher percentage. Do we even need to get into their defense, you wanna go there breh?


I don't care if it's his first year, outside of his rebounding I'm not really impressed with his game.

Forget the tall guys, Raul Neto finishes around the rim better than Randle too

 

[Steezy]

His ceiling is the utah version of milsap with less rebounding

 

[Bilz]

His ceiling is the utah version of milsap with less rebounding

I'd say a lower IQ version of Reggie Evans with a green light on offense.