Nah, this thread is a lesson that y'all fanbase is incapable of having any sort of objective discussion about anything, and will constantly move the goalposts, and even admit defeat only to then change their minds at later date, just to fulfil the mindless extremist-role quota for each season.
You mean the same debate where you waved the white flag?
It was over for you and everyone else arguing from your position the moment that happened. Nothing that you post will ever change that.
Won?
Well, the Knicks won't be doing any of that with Julius on the team.
The only thing that Julius has lapped is people's minds who he managed to fool with his box score numbers. He's still the same player he's always been, except he just got more opportunities to spam easy scoring spots through transition and defensive breakdowns; there's a reason why he ranked in the lower-half of the league in half-court scoring. He didn't make the team better through his play - he was a constant in the Pels worst lineups. It's no coincidence that the Pels went from 48-wins the year before to 33-wins when they added him to their team.
You watch this season with the Knicks when his box score numbers won't be the same because he's not going to have the same opportunities like he did last season to pad his stats without consequence.