Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

How much detail do you need? Jabari has no future in this league. He's awful defensively and doesn't have the mentality to improve on that end and while he can be a spark offensively he lacks three point shooting. He has no defined role and can't guard either 3's or any small ball 4's. Randle has a defined role, he has a place in which he can do damage, and he tries. Maybe if you watched more games you'd realize actually putting in an effort out there in every facet of the game makes a difference even if you lack certain skills or physical advantages. Randle never stops, Parker's effort dips if he's not involved enough offensively and his defensive effort is bad regardless on top of his lack of actual defensive skills.

And this is YOUR problem - you don't watch games, it's obvious from the generic shyt you regurgitate over and over. I mean how many different ways can you say he tries hard?

First of all, Jabari doesn't lack 3-pt shooting, since he's added more volume over the last 2-3 seasons he's shooting 37% from behind the arc, which is well above the league-average; I don't see the sense in stating he lacks a 3-pt shot, when Julius doesn't have a jumpshot at all. There's a reason why teams actively leave him open whenever he's on the perimeter and cheat off him on the ball-handler, or stay within proximity of the paint, which affects offensive flow and limits scoring opportunities for whatever lineup Julius is a part of. Stating that he tries hard on some garbage man vernacular type shyt doesn't make up for the fact he has limited impact on the offensive end, because all he's good for is rim-running and crashing the glass, and that's before we subtract the fact opposition teams have the advantage of defending 5v4 and leaving Julius open. But that's really beside the point, because not only have you admitted you're biased (whereas I couldn't give a fukk about Jabari either way - I have no ties to him, or the Bucks, or the Bulls), but when it was abundantly clear in '16/'17 that Jabari was the superior player, you still wouldn't concede, and now here we are with you spinning this shyt into it being a "non-debate".



And for the record, Julius does not give effort in every "facet of the game", he's a horrendous help defender who constantly ball-watches, opting to stay by the paint so he can hunt for rebounds, because he lacks the BBIQ to make a difference in that area, hence why he's also prone to committing dumbass fouls (which basically cost the Pelicans the game yesterday).

This is a non-debate because Parker has no place in the league. Very similar to how Okafor loses most comparison debates because of his lack of fit in the league itself.

You know the funniest thing about this -

Again, if you had bothered to actually watch games instead of repeating out-dated, partisan rhetoric, you would've known this. Gentry started Julius in the previous game and it was an absolute disaster, to the point he was left shaking his head and pulled Julius from the game (because of all the dumb shyt he was doing on both ends), and he never returned. Says a lot about Julius, that this "lack of fit in the league itself" player started over him, doesn't it?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Still better than parker and still producing. Point blank period

IVE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE REFUSE TO BOW OUT GRACEFULLY THIS HARD. I THINK @Gil Scott-Heroin PARENTS USED TO BEAT THE SHIIT OUT OF HIM EVERY TIME HE WAS WRONG. THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPLANATION BEHIND THIS.

So both of you are admitting you didn't actually watch the game, instead opting to look at the box score and creating a preconceived narrative out of it?

Lakers fans, y'all.

We fukked up letting him go. Besides Joel clearly better than everyone drafted ahead of him

And up next on this episode of Lakers fans say the darndest things.

 

[malbaker86]

You know the funniest thing about this -

Again, if you had bothered to actually watch games instead of repeating out-dated, partisan rhetoric, you would've known this. Gentry started Julius in the previous game and it was an absolute disaster, to the point he was left shaking his head and pulled Julius from the game (because of all the dumb shyt he was doing on both ends), and he never returned. Says a lot about Julius, that this "lack of fit in the league itself" player started over him, doesn't it?

Kill shot

 

[Lakerman0834]

So both of you are admitting you didn't actually watch the game, instead opting to look at the box score and creating a preconceived narrative out of it?

Lakers fans, y'all.

And up next on this episode of Lakers fans say the darndest things.

Must burn your soul being so wrong bout Randle. Another Classic horrible hot take by you

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Must burn your soul being so wrong bout Randle. Another Classic horrible hot take by you

How many Pelicans games have you watched this season?

 

[Lakerman0834]

How many Pelicans games have you watched this season?

4 to be exact cuz i got randle and elfrid on my fantasy team

now tell me how you watch every game every night

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

4 to be exact cuz i got randle and elfrid on my fantasy team

now tell me how you watch every game every night

So you're one of those muh'fukkas that doesn't know what they're watching. Figures.

 

[Dwight Howard]

And this is YOUR problem - you don't watch games, it's obvious from the generic shyt you regurgitate over and over. I mean how many different ways can you say he tries hard?

First of all, Jabari doesn't lack 3-pt shooting, since he's added more volume over the last 2-3 seasons he's shooting 37% from behind the arc, which is well above the league-average; I don't see the sense in stating he lacks a 3-pt shot, when Julius doesn't have a jumpshot at all. There's a reason why teams actively leave him open whenever he's on the perimeter and cheat off him on the ball-handler, or stay within proximity of the paint, which affects offensive flow and limits scoring opportunities for whatever lineup Julius is a part of. Stating that he tries hard on some garbage man vernacular type shyt doesn't make up for the fact he has limited impact on the offensive end, because all he's good for is rim-running and crashing the glass, and that's before we subtract the fact opposition teams have the advantage of defending 5v4 and leaving Julius open. But that's really beside the point, because not only have you admitted you're biased (whereas I couldn't give a fukk about Jabari either way - I have no ties to him, or the Bucks, or the Bulls), but when it was abundantly clear in '16/'17 that Jabari was the superior player, you still wouldn't concede, and now here we are with you spinning this shyt into it being a "non-debate".



And for the record, Julius does not give effort in every "facet of the game", he's a horrendous help defender who constantly ball-watches, opting to stay by the paint so he can hunt for rebounds, because he lacks the BBIQ to make a difference in that area, hence why he's also prone to committing dumbass fouls (which basically cost the Pelicans the game yesterday).

You know the funniest thing about this -

Again, if you had bothered to actually watch games instead of repeating out-dated, partisan rhetoric, you would've known this. Gentry started Julius in the previous game and it was an absolute disaster, to the point he was left shaking his head and pulled Julius from the game (because of all the dumb shyt he was doing on both ends), and he never returned. Says a lot about Julius, that this "lack of fit in the league itself" player started over him, doesn't it?

This the type of shyt that makes you lose all credibility. I surely hope you aren’t suggesting Okafor is better than Randle. Let’s not even do that. The reality is you were wrong about Julius and Jabari and you’re too prideful to admit you were wrong. Julius numbers speak for themselves. And if you knew your shyt you know Julius is dealing with a foot injury right now. Pelicans fans have been satisfied with his play, but yea keep pretending you watch all his games

This dude dropped 24//8/6 and you want to talk about turnovers. He has a positive impact on the court, the numbers don’t lie. You can check of those advanced stats you rely on.

 

[Lakerman0834]

So you're one of those muh'fukkas that doesn't know what they're watching. Figures.

Answer the question how do you watch every game every night

Lets not forget your excellent analysis of Lowry being better than kidd and draymond shutting down KAJ.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This the type of shyt that makes you lose all credibility. I surely hope you aren’t suggesting Okafor is better than Randle.

It doesn't matter what I think about Okafor v. Julius, all that matters is that @KOBE believes Okafor is horrible to the point where he has no place in the league, and yet he started over Randle. What does that say about Julius, where a "lack of fit in the league itself" player is starting over him?

The reality is you were wrong about Julius and Jabari and you’re too prideful to admit you were wrong. Julius numbers speak for themselves..

If there was ever a debate, it was over in '16/'17. The fact you keep bringing up surface #s with no regards to context tells me you truly dont believe the nonsense you're posting, either that, or you don't understand basketball (which is probably more close to it). If Julius wasn't drafted by the Lakers, you wouldn't even pay him any attention, let alone actually argue for him. Please tell me these #s that "speak for themselves", and remember, be careful of what #s you post, you don't want them to be used against you.

This dude dropped 24//8/6 and you want to talk about turnovers. He has a positive impact on the court, the numbers don’t lie. You can check of those advanced stats you rely on.

Why throw stats at the wall when you didn't watch the game? His buckets were given to him on a silver platter in the paint (when he tried to create his own offense he ended up turning the ball over more times than not), he was grabbing uncontested rebounds (out of the eight boards he grabbed, only ONE was contested), and he was doing simple dribble hand-offs for his teammates and they'd shoot, for his assists. This is what happens when you reference archaic measurements in the box score without looking at how they're generated.

And if you wanna talk postive impact/advanced stats on the court not lying -

 

[Sccit]

YALL KNOW THAT IF JULIUS DROPPED 40-20-10 @Gil Scott-Heroin WOULD STILL COME IN HERE SAYIN SOME FUNNYSTYLE SHIIT LIKE “YOU DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE GAME, IT WAS ALL LAYUPS AND HE MISSED 2 FREE THROWS!!!”, RIGHT?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Answer the question how do you watch every game every night

Lets not forget your excellent analysis of Lowry being better than kidd and draymond shutting down KAJ.

Lowry's peak > Kidd's peak, and yes Draymond could guard a 39-year-old Cap - worse defenders than Draymond managed to guard him. Anything else you wanna take out of context or are you done?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

YALL KNOW THAT IF JULIUS DROPPED 40-20-10 @Gil Scott-Heroin WOULD STILL COME IN HERE SAYIN SOME FUNNYSTYLE SHIIT LIKE “YOU DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE GAME, IT WAS ALL LAYUPS AND HE MISSED 2 FREE THROWS!!!”, RIGHT?

Why is it you hang your entire argument on box score stats, but you disregard turnovers? If you're going to use basic ass measurements from the traditional box score, you use all of them, not just the ones that fit your agenda.

You know the funny thing? He's actually had more turnovers this season than field goals he's actually created for himself (sans points off offensive boards).

 

[Sccit]

Why is it you hang your entire argument on box score stats, but you disregard turnovers? If you're going to use basic ass measurements from the traditional box score, you use all of them, not just the ones that fit your agenda.

You know the funny thing? He's actually had more turnovers this season than field goals he's actually created for himself (sans points off offensive boards).

“WILTS 100 POINT GAME WASNT THAT IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE HE HAD 6 TURNOVERS GUYS!! STOP LOOKING AT THE BOX SCORE AND WATCH THE GAME. I DEFINITELY SAW IT LIVE.”

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Why is it you hang your entire argument on box score stats, but you disregard turnovers? If you're going to use basic ass measurements from the traditional box score, you use all of them, not just the ones that fit your agenda.

You know the funny thing? He's actually had more turnovers this season than field goals he's actually created for himself (sans points off offensive boards).