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Also teachers:

Video games are a waste of time, there's no future in it.

Well is it really wrong?
99.99999% of gaming streamers are making barely any money.

I shouldn’t have said that, given that we seem to have established in this thread that the coli hates math.

But still.

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Well is it really wrong?
99.99999% of gaming streamers are making barely any money.

I shouldn’t have said that, given that we seem to have established in this thread that the coli hates math.

But still.

:coffee:
I'm a software engineer and have taken my fair share of college physics and math courses.

The real world is funny like that. All I'm pointing out. Schools should be more up to date and teachers less close-minded.

Your average elementary school teacher has what, a degree full of easy courses and a bunch of tenure but yet want to gatekeep a child cutting the fluff and getting to the point?

Additionally, everyone "cheating" now and getting ahead. The risk is falling behind by not utilizing tech. The key is working smarter, not harder. In the real world: people don't care how you get it done, they just care you get it done as long as it's legal. Plus I'd argue video games are a good supplement/exercise for the brain as you have to think tactically and spontaneously in dynamic environments.
 
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I'm a software engineer and have taken my fair share of college physics and math courses.

The real world is funny like that. All I'm pointing out. Schools should be more up to date and teachers less close-minded.

Your average elementary school teacher has what, a degree full of easy courses and a bunch of tenure?

Additionally, everyone cheating now and getting ahead. The risk is falling behind by not utilizing tech. Work smarter, not harder.

In the real world: people don't care how you get it done, they just care you get it done as long as it's legal.

Plus I'd argue video games are a good supplement/exercise for the brain as you have to think tactically.
The technology that everyone is using is built on math.

The new technologies that will be created and depended upon in the future…will depend on math.
 

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The technology that everyone is using is built on math.

The new technologies that will be created and depended upon in the future…will depend on math.
But math doesn't depend on showing your work. You can shortcut tf out of it and get the same result. Additionally, some people who take the shortcuts can make the high-level connections because they don't get stuck in the details. They may actually end up understanding the subject and concepts better, but end up hating math class and math. If you look at it close, in many ways at those levels (dealing with kids), showing work is close to tedious brute force memorization. At those levels showing work is supposed to be for the problem solver/student to reference their steps, not for the teacher to determine pass or fail.

I think you'd be surprised at how many professionals don't know how to do basic integrals, differentiation, etc. yet are involved in making some groundbreaking tech because they know to get the answers one way or another (which is what the real world values). I know how to solve the integral of (xe^2xy)dxdy, but pretty sure 98% of the people I've worked with don't.

I honestly think the world needs a revamp on math education (and education in general) to be honest. We may be wasting time on too much old-fashioned ceremony that really isn't doing as much teaching and skill-building as we think it is. Do we know for a FACT that showing your work is really producing and training the talent? Is it really the cause of a good math student? Are we sure it's a necessary procedure and not a time sink just because it's been passed down as an "accepted" practice and rigor?

I don't even want to get started on musical education and how many hours, maybe years, people have spent on ear training for marginal benefit because it's the accepted ceremonious "rigor" we think is making better musicians. This dude here is an accomplished violinist (who picked up guitar), got absolute pitch and by using modern tech basically shows why the age-old advice of learning to sing what you play (a practice many people have passed on through the years) is BS:


Now, in most musical educations (especially on the collegiate level) there are sometimes 3 semesters worth of ear training courses. Imagine how much time could have gone into other more useful skills as a player. Think of every single person who took those courses, that's decades worth of time. shyt, maybe even a century's worth if you add the time everyone has spent doing a task that is outright wrong. Similarly, he said the best musicians he plays with professionally would basically fail all those ear training courses as well.

That's where going with traditions without verifying if they're really as effective as we think is going wrong. It's "rigorous" and difficult so we think it's raising our abilities, but is it really efficient at increasing skills and is it really in correlation to what we're trying to accomplish? A lot of curriculums are basically passed down and simply accepted because "somebody told somebody" and they started to pass on that advice.
 
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Maybe you won’t.

But the rest of us use it all the time. It’s not about the equations. It’s about the processes.

Did you guys really get nothing out of schooling?
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I'm saying anything you do now, you are required to use a tool.

Nobody is manually doing math in any field that is making a big decision.

Even if you're a scientist, the formulas and equations are automated.

Me personally, I have near perfect grammar, but ppl I work with everyday are making very large amounts of money and have poor grammar and spelling skills. It works both ways.
 

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I'm saying anything you do now, you are required to use a tool.

Nobody is manually doing math in any field that is making a big decision.

Even if you're a scientist, the formulas and equations are automated.

Me personally, I have near perfect grammar, but ppl I work with everyday are making very large amounts of money and have poor grammar and spelling skills. It works both ways.
Most engineering formulas are plug and chug but breh do you really want to drive on a bridge designed by someone who just entered numbers into a program with no understanding of concrete design or how loads are distributed?
 

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I remember when parents said that one day kids would be required to learn about that alphabet gang.
They called it Republican fear Mongering.

Fast forward my 10-year-old has to learn about trannies in his school book, in The civil Rights section, which does not include black people
most schools dont even have textbooks from this century. schools are fukked up enough, you dont have to make up scenarios for daps.
 

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most schools dont even have textbooks from this century. schools are fukked up enough, you dont have to make up scenarios for daps.
What scenario did I make up? Come move to the west coast. We got newwwww books with them Alphabet bols
 

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I remember when parents said that one day kids would be required to learn about that alphabet gang.
They called it Republican fear Mongering.

Fast forward my 10-year-old has to learn about trannies in his school book, in The civil Rights section, which does not include black people

This cac worshipping Republican and his :duck:

Go tell it to Tucker Carlson on the unemployment line nikka.
 
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