i was reading about it a few days ago but i found the links on a cac forum so idk
generally when you have something that seems to only be debated by extremists on either side its 
...like religious wars 
Remember that Egyptian dude that wanted to be classified as black
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generally when you have something that seems to only be debated by extremists on either side its ...like religious wars 
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King-Over-Kingz
..like religious wars
Lol naw but I feel you on that. Which is why I often like to find the middle ground of things. At least till I can form a consensus one way or another.
lol, u should read ch. 1-2...... u will see what it is.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Sounds good
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
mexicans are considered 'white' on the US census tooshyt is retarded
Mexican and Latino is not a race under the census, and again , you can put whatever the hell you want on the census , I'm not sure what people don't get about that
I would agree that the classification system is silly but the idea that the government can force you to be white is dumb
he's not fighting a personal battle & like him I don't believe its minor either. He realizes the bigger issue which is why he's taking this stance. Its asinine for the Government to label North Black Africans as white...what kinda logic is this crap
Mexicans are Native Americans, its sad that a lot of them don't even know it.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
he's not fighting a personal battle & like him I don't believe its minor either. He realizes the bigger issue which is why he's taking this stance. Its asinine for the Government to label North Black Africans as white...what kinda logic is this crap
Mexicans are Native Americans, its sad that a lot of them don't even know it.
Lol, the us government doesn't work that way, the notion that the American government labels North Africans white is meaningless becuase in the end you can bubble in whatever you want
Mexico is a multiracial society, some are Native American, some are white and some are mixed, but regardless they can put whatever they want on the census
Now if you are saying you have a problem with the choices I would agree with you but I would disagree that the government forces you to bubble anything in
I understand that you don't feel knowing your history is important to one's self. This isn't just about the government but its also about the scientific community supporting 'Cacology' calling these people white...when they are obviously black. Some people, like me - care a lot about our history as black people. Cacs know that if they can claim 'Egypt' then they can nail down the 'Superiority' idea that black people haven't contributed 'anything of relevance' to society.
This may be a minor issue to you but to some people it isn't.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
i never said anything about not wanting to know my history, white people trying to whiten egypt is a real issue
the us government forcing people to be white is not a real issue because the us government simply doesnt work that way because in the us you can bubble in anything you want
i know how to separate real issues from irrelevant issues, you apparently dont
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/fix-the-census-archaic-racial-categories.html
STARTING in 1790, and every 10 years since, the census has sorted the American population into distinct racial groups. Remarkably, a discredited relic of 18th-century science, the “five races of mankind,” lives on in the 21st century. Today, the census calls these five races white; black; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; and Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
The nation’s founders put a hierarchical racial classification to political use: its premise of white supremacy justified, among other things, enslaving Africans, violent removal of Native Americans from their land, the colonization of Caribbean and Pacific islands, Jim Crow subjugation and the importation of cheap labor from China and Mexico.
Of course, officially sanctioned discrimination was finally outlawed by civil rights legislation in 1964. The underlying demographic categories, however, were kept
Securing civil rights required statistics. Thus resulted an uneasy marriage of preposterous 18th-century racial classifications to legitimate 20th-century policy goals like fair electoral representation, anti-discrimination programs, school desegregation, bilingual education and affirmative action.
Fast-growing population groups — mixed-race Americans, those with “hyphenated” identities, immigrants and their children, anyone under 30 — increasingly complain that the choices offered by the census are too limited, even ludicrous. Particularly tortured is the Census Bureau’s designation, since 1970, of “Hispanic” as an ethnicity or origin, thereby compelling Hispanics to also choose a “race.” In 2010, Hispanics were offered the option to select more than one race, but 37 percent opted for “some other race” — a telling indicator that the term itself is the problem.
Indeed, anyone who filled in “some other race” that year was allocated to one or more of the five main groupings. Many absurdities have resulted.
America has about 1.5 million immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa — some 3 percent of the nation’s black population. Like President Obama’s father, who was Kenyan, their experience differs vastly from that of African-Americans whose ancestors were enslaved, yet they are subsumed into the same category — one that, until this very year, continued to include the outdated term “Negro.” (2013)
The census considers Arabs white, along with non-Arabs like Turks and Kurds because they have origins in the Middle East or North Africa. Migrants from the former Soviet nations in Central Asia are lumped in as white along with descendants of New England pilgrims.
An indigenous person from Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala is Hispanic, but if she “maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment,” she might also be counted as part of a racial group that includes the Inupiat and Yupik peoples of Alaska.
Are Australian immigrants whites or Pacific Islanders? (The Census Bureau’s own documents are unclear on this.)
Much attention has been paid to the news that non-Hispanic whites now account for less than half of births in the United States and that deaths now exceed births among non-Hispanic whites.
STARTING in 1790, and every 10 years since, the census has sorted the American population into distinct racial groups. Remarkably, a discredited relic of 18th-century science, the “five races of mankind,” lives on in the 21st century. Today, the census calls these five races white; black; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; and Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
The nation’s founders put a hierarchical racial classification to political use: its premise of white supremacy justified, among other things, enslaving Africans, violent removal of Native Americans from their land, the colonization of Caribbean and Pacific islands, Jim Crow subjugation and the importation of cheap labor from China and Mexico.
Of course, officially sanctioned discrimination was finally outlawed by civil rights legislation in 1964. The underlying demographic categories, however, were kept
Securing civil rights required statistics. Thus resulted an uneasy marriage of preposterous 18th-century racial classifications to legitimate 20th-century policy goals like fair electoral representation, anti-discrimination programs, school desegregation, bilingual education and affirmative action.
Fast-growing population groups — mixed-race Americans, those with “hyphenated” identities, immigrants and their children, anyone under 30 — increasingly complain that the choices offered by the census are too limited, even ludicrous. Particularly tortured is the Census Bureau’s designation, since 1970, of “Hispanic” as an ethnicity or origin, thereby compelling Hispanics to also choose a “race.” In 2010, Hispanics were offered the option to select more than one race, but 37 percent opted for “some other race” — a telling indicator that the term itself is the problem.
Indeed, anyone who filled in “some other race” that year was allocated to one or more of the five main groupings. Many absurdities have resulted.
America has about 1.5 million immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa — some 3 percent of the nation’s black population. Like President Obama’s father, who was Kenyan, their experience differs vastly from that of African-Americans whose ancestors were enslaved, yet they are subsumed into the same category — one that, until this very year, continued to include the outdated term “Negro.” (2013)
The census considers Arabs white, along with non-Arabs like Turks and Kurds because they have origins in the Middle East or North Africa. Migrants from the former Soviet nations in Central Asia are lumped in as white along with descendants of New England pilgrims.
An indigenous person from Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala is Hispanic, but if she “maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment,” she might also be counted as part of a racial group that includes the Inupiat and Yupik peoples of Alaska.
Are Australian immigrants whites or Pacific Islanders? (The Census Bureau’s own documents are unclear on this.)
Much attention has been paid to the news that non-Hispanic whites now account for less than half of births in the United States and that deaths now exceed births among non-Hispanic whites.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/fix-the-census-archaic-racial-categories.html
STARTING in 1790, and every 10 years since, the census has sorted the American population into distinct racial groups. Remarkably, a discredited relic of 18th-century science, the “five races of mankind,” lives on in the 21st century. Today, the census calls these five races white; black; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; and Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
The nation’s founders put a hierarchical racial classification to political use: its premise of white supremacy justified, among other things, enslaving Africans, violent removal of Native Americans from their land, the colonization of Caribbean and Pacific islands, Jim Crow subjugation and the importation of cheap labor from China and Mexico.
Of course, officially sanctioned discrimination was finally outlawed by civil rights legislation in 1964. The underlying demographic categories, however, were kept
Securing civil rights required statistics. Thus resulted an uneasy marriage of preposterous 18th-century racial classifications to legitimate 20th-century policy goals like fair electoral representation, anti-discrimination programs, school desegregation, bilingual education and affirmative action.
Fast-growing population groups — mixed-race Americans, those with “hyphenated” identities, immigrants and their children, anyone under 30 — increasingly complain that the choices offered by the census are too limited, even ludicrous. Particularly tortured is the Census Bureau’s designation, since 1970, of “Hispanic” as an ethnicity or origin, thereby compelling Hispanics to also choose a “race.” In 2010, Hispanics were offered the option to select more than one race, but 37 percent opted for “some other race” — a telling indicator that the term itself is the problem.
Indeed, anyone who filled in “some other race” that year was allocated to one or more of the five main groupings. Many absurdities have resulted.
America has about 1.5 million immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa — some 3 percent of the nation’s black population. Like President Obama’s father, who was Kenyan, their experience differs vastly from that of African-Americans whose ancestors were enslaved, yet they are subsumed into the same category — one that, until this very year, continued to include the outdated term “Negro.” (2013)
The census considers Arabs white, along with non-Arabs like Turks and Kurds because they have origins in the Middle East or North Africa. Migrants from the former Soviet nations in Central Asia are lumped in as white along with descendants of New England pilgrims.
An indigenous person from Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala is Hispanic, but if she “maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment,” she might also be counted as part of a racial group that includes the Inupiat and Yupik peoples of Alaska.
Are Australian immigrants whites or Pacific Islanders? (The Census Bureau’s own documents are unclear on this.)
Much attention has been paid to the news that non-Hispanic whites now account for less than half of births in the United States and that deaths now exceed births among non-Hispanic whites.
the racial classifications are retarded, i wont argue with that and its an open question on whether we should even have them
none of that changes the fact that when this dude gets a census form he is perfectly able to to bubble in black and the us government cannot do anything about it
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this reminds me of that girl in a CNN special who was Egyptian and identified as black over here.I think she actually said "I'm the only actual African here, in this room."
by who? cacs. I wouldn't take the word of the oppressor when it comes to shyt like this. Remember these are the same people that said we were less than human. Now it comes out that we are not only the original man but all other races came from us. So if I were you, I wouldn't take the word of racist cacs on issues like this that would turn their ideology of white supremacy on its head.