Remember how folks were saying the '21 NBA draft class was weak?

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Mobley. It was always the easy, obvious answer.
I don’t think it’s a guarantee but with how Embiid and Jokic look, if Mobley can be a tenth of that that’s incredible. He has so much of AD/Bosh/Garnett in his game imo

cade also is just a bucket who can do so much at the pg/sg/sf spot and even power forward after a year or two of nba diet and weightlifting. These two are big time and Barnes has a pathway to all nba as well. Green can be either Lavine-lite (a pure bucket with holes in other areas) or the next Jordan Clarkson. His future has really only one clear path way where ass Cade and Mobley have a lot of room and areas they can excel in.
 

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I don’t think it’s a guarantee but with how Embiid and Jokic look, if Mobley can be a tenth of that that’s incredible. He has so much of AD/Bosh/Garnett in his game imo

cade also is just a bucket who can do so much at the pg/sg/sf spot and even power forward after a year or two of nba diet and weightlifting. These two are big time and Barnes has a pathway to all nba as well. Green can be either Lavine-lite (a pure bucket with holes in other areas) or the next Jordan Clarkson. His future has really only one clear path way where ass Cade and Mobley have a lot of room and areas they can excel in.

A lot of scouts and projections had Mobley being the best player in the draft five years from now with the only knock against him being how quickly could his offense catch up to his defense. That's who Houston really should have taken instead of Green.

Green's performance so far has been rather ugly, but so was Ant's last year for the first half of his rookie season.
 

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A lot of scouts and projections had Mobley being the best player in the draft five years from now with the only knock against him being how quickly could his offense catch up to his defense. That's who Houston really should have taken instead of Green.

Green's performance so far has been rather ugly, but so was Ant's last year for the first half of his rookie season.
I mean, Houston saw green vertical and fire and saw dollar signs. Plus green walked in with like. 4 million followers on ig and such. Dude has the look of a star with the athletic gifts too. He’s also got a tiny frame in comparison to others, is streaky as hell, wasn’t a world beater on the g league last year, is in a lockerroom with KJP and Christian Wood, and a mid coach like Silas. Unlike Cade, Mobley, Barnes, or even Wagner…I’m afraid for Green personality wise because he seems like he could get bad habits or fall in line behind some idiots like KPJ or wood who are just as easily talented enough to warrant big money but also personality wise wild enough to leave a game at half time because the coach benched them. I just hope with Josh Christopher there with him aka his best friend he keeps his head on straight, accepts even more coaching, and gets a real point guard or KPJ becomes one consistently
 
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Who said that the draft class was weak?

I always heard that it was a good draft filled with depth and quality role players that teams could use to fill out their roster with.
Plenty of folks on here did, and then they repeated those thoughts early in the season when Cade struggled.
Mobley. It was always the easy, obvious answer.
Point me to where you said Mobley was the "easy, obvious" player to go #1 before the season. None of this hindsight shyt. And for the record, it's far too early to be claiming something like this anyway. All these players from this class are only scratching the surface on what they can become; we're not going to know who's the best and who are the stars until they establish themselves. Making grand statements about Mobley being the "easy, obvious answer" is too early.

Gotta let this shyt play out.

One thing is for certain, this class has talent in abundance. We've got second-round picks in their rookie seasons being key contributors on playoff teams. You can't say that about many classes.

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I mean, Houston saw green vertical and fire and saw dollar signs. Plus green walked in with like. 4 million followers on ig and such. Dude has the look of a star with the athletic gifts too. He’s also got a tiny frame in comparison to others, is streaky as hell, wasn’t a world beater on the g league last year, is in a lockerroom with KJP and Christian Wood, and a mid coach like Silas. Unlike Cade, Mobley, Barnes, or even Wagner…I’m afraid for Green personality wise because he seems like he could get bad habits or fall in line behind some idiots like KPJ or wood who are just as easily talented enough to warrant big money but also personality wise wild enough to leave a game at half time because the coach benched them. I just hope with Josh Christopher there with him aka his best friend he keeps his head on straight, accepts even more coaching, and gets a real point guard or KPJ becomes one consistently


Wood doesn't have a future with the team and will likely be gone before the trade deadline. KPJ is a different story as the red flags are popping up in what got him booted from Cleveland and teams not even wanting to take the 2nd round flier on him. KPJ as a PG isn't going to work long term and all the experimenting is going to do is stunt the growth and development of Green as a player. You can look at the situation in Boston in how they can benefit from an actual PG and floor general.

I've always maintained that Silas isn't built to lead those young dudes and he made it apparent last season when he was crying in the interview, which dudes insisted on downplaying.
 

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Plenty of folks on here did, and then they repeated those thoughts early in the season when Cade struggled.

Point me to where you said Mobley was the "easy, obvious" player to go #1 before the season. None of this hindsight shyt. And for the record, it's far too early to be claiming something like this anyway. All these players from this class are only scratching the surface on what they can become; we're not going to know who's the best and who are the stars until they establish themselves. Making grand statements about Mobley being the "easy, obvious answer" is too early.

Gotta let this shyt play out.

One thing is for certain, this class has talent in abundance. We've got second-round picks in their rookie seasons being key contributors on playoff teams. You can't say that about many classes.

:manny:

I've said it on more than one occasion in threads for months now. It was always said and predicted that he was going to be the best player in the draft five years from now with the only knock really against him being his offense. It's actually farther along than a lot of people expected at this point.
 
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I've said it on more than one occasion in threads for months now. It was always said and predicted that he was going to be the best player in the draft five years from now with the only knock really against him being his offense. It's actually farther along than a lot of people expected at this point.
As I said, point me to where you said Mobley was the "easy, obvious" player to go #1 before the season. Let's see the receipts.
 

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Man regardless of you saw it before or after it’s clear Mobley as deserving of a first pick. But so was Cade and as the season has gone on he’s showing it as well. Only difference is the team record. Mobley focus is anchor a defense with Allen. Cade has been running backcourt lineups with Killian Hayes who is averaging 5 points a game.
 

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:mjgrin: I'm glad you're back after your extensive digging through the entire thread and carefully crafting your Juelzation.

You threw the 6th pick in there as a side note after repeatedly getting cooked in the SGA argument. You were making all types of proclamations about the dude being a "sure thing" and a star.

Even if whatever bullshyt you said I "implied" about Green is true, it still isn't relevant in the slightest. You're bringing it up as a deflection because you know you're a phony ass cac pretending to retroactively be right about some shyt you never stood on before hand. Whether I thought Green was the OBVIOUS choice at Number 1 or not (I didn't, hence why I never said it), I still said the #1 pick in that Draft is worth significantly more than SGA. You can try to muddy the waters all you want, but my argument was clear.
 
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I don't have to prove anything to you :mjlol:

You pull up receipts on everyone else, so if you want to prove me wrong then do it yourself.
There's nothing you said prior to the season that stated or even so much as insinuated he was the "easy, obvious answer". But you knew that already.

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Man regardless of you saw it before or after it’s clear Mobley as deserving of a first pick. But so was Cade and as the season has gone on he’s showing it as well. Only difference is the team record. Mobley focus is anchor a defense with Allen. Cade has been running backcourt lineups with Killian Hayes who is averaging 5 points a game.
That's not really the point.

Regardless, of Cade and Mobley being deserving of the #1 pick, that's not to say others won't have a claim too (Scottie, for example). It just goes to show how much talent there is. This isn't a thread about who's the best, or who's going to be the best, it's about the class as a whole, where you can go down the list and be amazed at just how many of these players are relevant in their rookie seasons.

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