Remember how folks were saying the '21 NBA draft class was weak?

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Where y'all at?

Dudes foolishly made the mistake of thinking Cade struggling out of the gate (all because he missed the entire preseason; suffered an injury in training camp) was a reflection of the class as a whole, and didn't just sit back and wait for the dust to settle to give a proper evaluation. There were a lot of question marks about the talent before the draft too; many questioned who would be legitimate franchise building blocks.

Cade
Mobley
Barnes
Wagner
Kuminga
Giddey
Jalen
Duarte
Moody
Sengun
Davion
Z.Williams
Christopher
Hyland
Edwards
Suggs
Sharpe
JRE
H.Jones
Dosunmu
Kispert
Mann
Thomas
Grimes
Wiggins
BB Jr
Reaves (undrafted)
Washington Jr. (undrafted)
Alvarado (undrafted)
Duke Jr. (undrafted)

All these rookies have ranged from showing All-NBA potential to rotational/role player value at the half way point of the season. This is without a doubt the deepest draft we've had in a while. Many of whom have either been thrown in at the deep end to lead their respective teams in pivotal roles, or have flourished after needing to step up with the absences due to the pandemic and/or injuries.

 

[CantStop]

Tell us who's going to be the best player in the draft

I bet you won't

 

[#1 pick]

Where y'all at?

Dudes foolishly made the mistake of thinking Cade struggling out of the gate (all because he missed the entire preseason; suffered an injury in training camp) was a reflection of the class as a whole, and didn't just sit back and wait for the dust to settle to give a proper evaluation. There were a lot of question marks about the talent before the draft too; many questioned who would be legitimate franchise building blocks.

Cade
Mobley
Barnes
Wagner
Kuminga
Giddey
Jalen
Duarte
Moody
Sengun
Davion
Z.Williams
Christopher
Hyland
Edwards
Suggs
Sharpe
JRE
H.Jones
Dosunmu
Kispert
Mann
Thomas
Grimes
Wiggins
BB Jr
Reaves (undrafted)
Washington Jr. (undrafted)
Alvarado (undrafted)
Duke Jr. (undrafted)

All these rookies have ranged from showing All-NBA potential to rotational/role player value at the half way point of the season. This is without a doubt the deepest draft we've had in a while. Many of whom have either been thrown in at the deep end to lead their respective teams in pivotal roles, or have flourished after needing to step up with the absences due to the pandemic and/or injuries.

Who? The national media was high on this class

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This cat was the 38th pick. This is how deep this draft goes.

 

[NoMorePie]

Man just gonna leave out primo like that

 

[GOAT]

Fugazi victory lap

I remember YOU saying you'd give up the number one pick in this draft for SGA

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Man just gonna leave out primo like that

I was in two minds of adding him to the list.

He's got the talent, but hasn't shown a whole lot in the limited time he's got; Pop should just let him free after the All-Star break, given the Spurs are no hope of making the playoffs. He's another one to watch for. Hopefully for y'all Spurs fans he does end up being something, because there isn't a whole lot else to look forward to for y'all.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I remember YOU saying you'd give up the number one pick in this draft for SGA

Listen here, white boy - taking posts out of context ain't gonna fly in here. Particularly when that was never what I argued, and it wasn't just the #1 pick for SGA. The discussion was based upon the #1 pick vs. SGA and the #6 pick; conveniently you left out that in this scenario the #6 pick would be attached too. Essentially being SGA and someone like Kuminga.

The most hilarious thing in all this is -

How Cade is the consensus number 1 in a world where Jalen Green exists is beyond me

Not only are you horribly wrong with this dumb shyt, but in your head you actually believed SGA and a Kuminga-type wouldn't be worth Jalen Green.

 

[khross415]

that draft thread got coli analyst looking funny when that Kuminga pick came through.

 

[GOAT]

Nah, don't try to flip the script. You barely mentioned #6 pick in that argument. You were saying SGA alone is worth it.


The number 1 pick in a Draft you're retrospectively bragging about isn't worth a 4th year, non-all star. You and I both know what you were arguing.

That's why you're trying to deflect to a completely irrelevant point of me saying Cade shouldn't be a consensus #1, as if that has anything to do with the argument of whether SGA was worth the #1 pick (something I argued vehemently against). The fact that you have to try to feebly take victory laps for opinions you didn't express at the time shows how little you actually have to brag about.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Who said that the draft class was weak?

I always heard that it was a good draft filled with depth and quality role players that teams could use to fill out their roster with.

 

[GOAT]

Tell us who's going to be the best player in the draft

I bet you won't

According to him, SGA will be better than every player from this draft.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Nah, don't try to flip the script. You barely mentioned #6 pick in that argument. You were saying SGA alone is worth it.


The number 1 pick in a Draft you're retrospectively bragging about isn't worth a 4th year, non-all star. You and I both know what you were arguing.

That's why you're trying to deflect to a completely irrelevant point of me saying Cade shouldn't be a consensus #1, as if that has anything to do with the argument of whether SGA was worth the #1 pick (something I argued vehemently against). The fact that you have to try to feebly take victory laps for opinions you didn't express at the time shows how little you actually have to brag about.

Cade might not be consensus number one only because it was between him and Mobley
Redraft green goes fourth or fifth

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Tell us who's going to be the best player in the draft

I bet you won't

Mobley. It was always the easy, obvious answer.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Nah, don't try to flip the script. You barely mentioned #6 pick in that argument. You were saying SGA alone is worth it..

I barely mentioned the #6 pick?



Why blatantly lie like this, when I can easily pull up the exchange we had:

And as it's been pointed out in this thread, it isn't simply an equation of Cade vs. SGA, it's Cade vs. SGA and the #6 pick, which could be returning another star player.

As I said, this is not a guarantee. Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who's high on Cade. And really it's more than just Cade vs. Shai, it's Cade vs. Shai and the #6 pick.

YIf we were to use the logic that you have put into action, where you wouldn't trade the #1 pick, you'd take all these players:

Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett

Over SGA and another high lottery pick.

Which I can tell you right now, there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't pull the trigger on trading any of those players for SGA + #6 pick, in retrospect.

I reiterated over and over to you about the #6 pick being part of the equation, when you kept on ignoring it. You were the one who was fixated on it being Shai vs. #1 pick. Now, you're coming with this bullshyt about how I barely mentioned it. I mentioned it multiple times; you ignored it multiple times.

That's why you're trying to deflect to a completely irrelevant point of me saying Cade shouldn't be a consensus #1, as if that has anything to do with the argument of whether SGA was worth the #1 pick (something I argued vehemently against). The fact that you have to try to feebly take victory laps for opinions you didn't express at the time shows how little you actually have to brag about.

The only one who's doing any deflecting is YOU. You thinking Jalen was the best player of the draft and should've gone #1 is entirely relevant. There's a reason why you were sticking out your chest about how good he was going to be before the draft, but haven't said shyt since. You had him as the definitive #1 pick, therefore, you valued Jalen over SGA and the #6 pick. Imagine if Detroit picked Jalen, when they could've had SGA and Kuminga.

Like I told you in that thread, this is why you don't know shyt about hoops and never will. Now, get the fukk outta my thread and let grown folks talk.