Reggie Miller 3rd Best SG of All-time according to Mark Jackson

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Wade's best years coincide with VC, Tmac, Kobe etc all being in their primes.

VC and Tmac(A 6'8" Small Forward btw) careers are essentially grant hill status. and given the fact that they never had any post season success.(Have they even seen an NBA finals before):shaq2:



AI, Kobe, Wade,Ray Allen and Manu only real 2 guards from that era that deserved to mentioned.

Ai was a best on offense and could gather up alot steals but his size was a liabilty that he really had to pg spot and have people like eric snow, larry hughes, or Iggy actually defend the oposing 2 guard. still he was >>> most other 2guards alltime. if anything for that killer crossover.

Kobe:shaq2: no explanation needed.

Ray was reggie miller with defense and the ability to drive to the hoop.

Manu is the like the john stockton of 2 guards. great all around consistent players no glaring weakness. skilled

But thats it. 5 great sgs does not make the 2000s the GOAT sg era. because outside of those five the rest of the league at that position was garbage.

12 years later everyone except for AI is still top 5 in the league at the sg position. 12 years! that says something. The next best sgs after these old dudes is monta :gag:like iverson buit even worse on d joe johnson :gag: failed hopes iggy :gag: only good for about 14 points but a beast defensively, essentially a metta world peace with hops and james harden :russ:

GOAT SG ERA? :wtf:
 

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So they both played the same position when they were on the raptors together? :ohhh:


















:shaq2:

They obviously could play multiple positions that's how talented they were.

You could put them at the 1-3, and tmac at the 4 depending on matchups.
 

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Doug christie was the raptors starting SG.Carter was the Sf Mcgrady came off the bench

When the raptors got mo peterson carter played the 2 and 3.Then when he went to jersey he played the 2 more but I coulda swore carter and jefferson switched between the 2 and 3

Carter was always a sf to me I never thought of him as a sg
 

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They obviously could play multiple positions that's how talented they were.

You could put them at the 1-3, and tmac at the 4 depending on matchups.

So that means you can call him a sg?:scusthov:

Carter played 2 and he played 3 on the raptors.

in 2004 when he was playing for the rockets

Bob Sura and David Wesley played at the 1 and 2

last season when he played for the hawks he was the backup for marvin williams.

He basically played at SF his whole career but since he has to ability to move over to the 2 when needed you call him a SG:pacspit:
 

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Only thing clyde was better at than wade was maintaining eye contact with the floor when he dribbled. Ol' "my bald spot gets bigger every time I try to go left" ass nikka
The most awkward dribble by top SG I can remember.
nikkas with bad handles on playgrounds used to be called Drexlers
 

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When Tmac was making his all nba teams, he went in as a guard, VC went in as a forward.

Wade >Drex, AI, Reggie, Tmac, Manu, Ray.
Wade still has to prove he can be highly productive into his 30s like MJ, Kobe, Drex, Reggie were, but so far hes on pace to finish ahead of Drex.

Wades peak years>Drex peak years
Wades accomplishments>Drex
 

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Joe Dumars is not better than Reggie. Call them close if you want but Joe D is not killin Reggie like that.

i have no problem with what Mark Jackson said. Joe Dumars and Mitch have never averaged over 24 ppg like Reggie has. And Joe D's rebounds, steals, and assists aren't blowing away Reggie's numbers. Even Michael Jordan said Reggie is a very underrated defender.

Wade and Ray Allen you can make a case for but Reggie beat both of their bucks/heat teams in the playoffs so who cares. If you're saying Reggie hasn't accomplished anything well he did beat them in the playoffs.

Clyde is clyde i'm not going to say Reggie is better than him. Clydes numbers are crazy and even if he had no ring he's better than Reggie. So Mark Jackson is right.....

MJ
Clyde
Reggie

Mitch's career high of 25.9 ppg is higher than Miller's.

The Rock > Miller
 

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I always thought T-Mac was considered a shooting guard and Vince was more of a small forward/shooting guard. But when he went to Jersey he was definitely a SG.
 

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I'm not about to say Wade's career is over, but I do think his physical style of play is going to catch up with him and he doesn't play very well most of the time when hurt.

As for Clyde being better than Wade........It's debatable. I definitely see an argument for Wade by my initial gut feeling has me saying Wade isn't top 5 yet my list is:

Jordan
Kobe
Gervin
West
Drexler

Oh shyt how I forget about the Iceman. Props.
 

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statistically Wade is >> Drexler.

Drexler Career statline is 20ppgs 5.6 apg 6 rpg, 2 spg and .7 blocks per game and .47fg%
Wade careerso far is 25ppgs 6.2 apg, 5.1 rpg, 1.8 spg 1 block per game and .48fg%

He beats him in every category except rebounding.
That being said Drexler played almost twice as many seasons as Wade has. I doubt wade could play another 7 or 8 seasons and keep his numbers up like Drexler. But their best seasons were almost identical statistically. so i'd have to give the edge to Drexler unless Wade experiences a resurgence and stays healty.
 

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Wade vs Drexler I see the argument for both....ignoring that Drexler dribbled with head down and always went left. They are actually very similar players, with the only real difference between 3".

Logo & Iceman, most of us never seen play in their prime.

As for Reggie, he's Top 15 MAYBE 20-25 realistically...YES Rock was better than Reggie. Reggie whole career is hyped off of 1 single game that they one vs us in the playoffs. And only cause they won the series. He's 2-2 vs Knicks in the playoffs and his overall record wasn't even close to being .500%. Whatever game-winners in the playoffs, THEY LOST those series.

vince & Tmac were SGs. Tmac came off the bench in Toronto and subbed as the swingman. Orlando got him to be the SG and Mike Miller played 3 in Grant's absence. If that's not the case, AI is a PG.
 

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Wade vs Drexler I see the argument for both....ignoring that Drexler dribbled with head down and always went left. They are actually very similar players, with the only real difference between 3".

Logo & Iceman, most of us never seen play in their prime.

As for Reggie, he's Top 15 MAYBE 20-25 realistically...YES Rock was better than Reggie. Reggie whole career is hyped off of 1 single game that they one vs us in the playoffs. And only cause they won the series. He's 2-2 vs Knicks in the playoffs and his overall record wasn't even close to being .500%. Whatever game-winners in the playoffs, THEY LOST those series.

vince & Tmac were SGs. Tmac came off the bench in Toronto and subbed as the swingman. Orlando got him to be the SG and Mike Miller played 3 in Grant's absence. If that's not the case, AI is a PG.

:shaq2:
T-mac came off the bench his first season he was a full time starter by the third season alongside carter when they got swept outta the playoffs.
I agree that Vince was sg tho. but at 6'8" Mcgrady was a natural small forward who could play down to the 2 spot.
 

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As for Reggie, he's Top 15 MAYBE 20-25 realistically...YES Rock was better than Reggie. Reggie whole career is hyped off of 1 single game that they one vs us in the playoffs. And only cause they won the series. He's 2-2 vs Knicks in the playoffs and his overall record wasn't even close to being .500%. Whatever game-winners in the playoffs, THEY LOST those series.

:rudy:

Are you talkin bout the knicks?

Reggie hit gw shots vs the bulls,nets,dropped 57,dropped 35 in a half in the 01 playoffs 2nd all time leading scorer in ucla history.Knicks vs pacers are 3 up in playoff match ups

93,94 and 99 went to the knicks 95,98 and 00 went to the pacers.Miller sent the game to ot in 98 and the pacers won it ot

 
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