Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

[Malcolmxxx_23]

I actually agree with this research finding, from my own anecdotal evidence.

I admittedly used to be an incel beating my meat 2-3x daily. I'll never front on here acting like I was a player ass nikka. Fam, I lost my virginity in 2020 at age 21. I was frustrated & started delving into red pill content. Then I said "I'm angry at women for not giving me any play, but I'm too fukking scared to even talk to girls in public you stupid ass nikka, how do you even expect to get p*ssy"

So I started talking to girls at the grocery store, out hiking, at the bar, at the airport, on a bus, etc. I actually started getting numbers. I wasn't batting 1.000, actually for every 10 girls I approach, I probably get 3 numbers. These not ugly hoes like Papa Pimp either, I only approach girls I actually think are cute.

Walk up to a girl, ask her her name, introduce yourself, call her fine/compliment something about her, then ask for the number. That's the entire play. Make sure she noticed me/is aware of my presence, women don't like being crept up on & will get scared. I'm not handsome, I have a lazy eye & black as hell like Biggie & some acne. The only thing I got going is that I'm kinda tall, 5'11 barefoot and 6'0/6'1 with shoes on. I just learned how to make girls smile with my conversation & I'm in there. It also helps that I'm a black man, we got a natural swagger that other races don't got. A pasty white boy or a Asian anime nikka can't spit game like we can, they'd probably frighten the hoes away.

Get it in brehs.

When you out in the field you realize nothing has changed
Same shyt that applied 10 years ago applies today

Approaches
Conversation skills
Good appearance
Not being creepy
Etc


90 percent of the women don’t care about the follower count

 

[MikelArteta]

The real question is, out of all of those dudes. Which one is smashing? Cuz all of them aren’t.

D!ck is

 

[High Art]

It's a tricky subject because:

1. Men who are shut-ins or socially awkward have already shot themselves in the foot and don't have much room to complain about women not choosing them. That's like someone not bothering to send their resume anywhere while complaining about jobs not hiring them.

2. There's no way to force attraction on either side. A below average looking man could settle for a fat, ugly, or wrinkled woman or a single mom if he really wanted to but these same men still have standards and want a girl who's at least a 7 just like every other dude. The competition for women 7+ is very high and competitive. People of both genders think that they deserve above average looking people regardless of how they actually look and take care of themselves personally.

3. Forcing relationships or having arranged marriages won't accomplish shyt either because breakups and divorces can still occur. Plus, TLR loves to complain about "Alpha Fuxx/Beta Buxx" and women settling for them for stability/money but that's actually the quickest way to become a so-called "Beta Buxx" that's being settled for. If one is fine with that possibility, it's no big deal. But a lot of dudes in the manosphere complain about it constantly.

4. Young women are outpacing young men in the workforce, education, and now increasingly home ownership. Young men can make up for this by getting a good paying trade or blue collar job but a lot of young men today are either working minimum wage jobs, are underemployed, or are flat out unemployed and still living at home with their moms past the age of 25. It's tough to attract a lot of women given those circumstances unless you're tall, dark, and handsome. The only viable way to fix this would be to get more young men to enter the trades or become cops/firefighters where they can still make good money without a lot of education. White Collar women are actually okay with dudes in those fields and date/marry them all the time.

Basically, it's a multi-faceted thing that both men and women can work on but it'll require a lot of effort. If we don't work on it, Republicans and the MAGA crowd will continue to try to address the issue on their own radical terms and it'll be a disaster for everyone.

Two things I think that contribute these issues: We live in a society that is very much in favor of abolishing gender roles. It is presented as a good thing. We also, as you mentioned, live in a society where women are doing better and and in many instances, outpacing men. Then what is stopping women from being the ones that approach? This thread, and often this board, is indicative of this odd double-mindedness. A man is expected and tasked with being the one to pursue women while at the same time, there is little stopping women from being the ones to be the ones to pursue and in fact, things are stacked in their favor to do so. There is little to no reason really for women not to be the ones to pursue. There won't be issues of harassment from scary or creepy men, men won't have to worry about being cancelled, and, as we have seen with Simone Biles, and so many other issues.

The other issue I see is that these articles and studies do little to dig deep into why men are as they are and how content that are. If it is covered, it seems like it is glossed over.

That said, I absolutely love the fact that you mentioned the political aspect of this since it will prove to be an issue moving forward. The issue I mentioned above concerning gender roles and cancel culture I can see being weaponized if not addressed properly.

 

[Iverson_64]

Two things I think that contribute these issues: We live in a society that is very much in favor of abolishing gender roles. It is presented as a good thing. We also, as you mentioned, live in a society where women are doing better and and in many instances, outpacing men. Then what is stopping women from being the ones that approach? This thread, and often this board, is indicative of this odd double-mindedness. A man is expected and tasked with being the one to pursue women while at the same time, there is little stopping women from being the ones to be the ones to pursue and in fact, things are stacked in their favor to do so. There is little to no reason really for women not to be the ones to pursue. There won't be issues of harassment from scary or creepy men, men won't have to worry about being cancelled, and, as we have seen with Simone Biles, and so many other issues.

The other issue I see is that these articles and studies do little to dig deep into why men are as they are and how content that are. If it is covered, it seems like it is glossed over.

That said, I absolutely love the fact that you mentioned the political aspect of this since it will prove to be an issue moving forward. The issue I mentioned above concerning gender roles and cancel culture I can see being weaponized if not addressed properly.

That's a good question.

I think that it's a matter of habitual and social norms since we're so used to men doing the approaching and pursuing for so long in society.

Another aspect, though, is that women have more to lose by pursuing the wrong type of man so they're less likely to play the numbers game compared to men just for the sake of their own safety.

Hell, my sister gave money to a homeless man the other day and listened to him tell his story about how he became homeless and the homeless man started mistaking her concern for romantic interest and got aggressive and told my sister that she should become his new girlfriend. And whatever sympathy my sister had for the homeless guy went out the window once he said that.

Obviously, that's a bit of an extreme example but there's more risk in women openly showing interest in random men they don't know or even being overly nice towards random men they don't know. It's f*cked up and the average man is harmless for sure but the possibility alone frightens a lot of women so they usually wait until they really know a man before they openly express interest in him.

Also, some women might worry that approaching many men in public might lead to the perception of them being "loose."

 

[Van Cleef]

Imma keep it a buck... If kids who look like this are your competition then maybe it's time to do some soul searching and reevaluate the women you seem to be interested in because I can guarantee you most grown women aren't chasing whatever the hell that is...

But shyt like this is how a lot of y'all wind up telling on yourselves because there's a very specific demographic of extremely YOUNG women who would be into this and yet I'm seeing 2012 posters AGREEING with this statement which leads me to believe a lot of y'all are simply chasing/lusting over women way too young for you.

that nikka is 26 he aint no kid... you nikkas are dinosaurs

 

[Yaboysix]

Here goes this incel shyt again...EVERYBODY getting hoes!...

Now, WOMEN are the ones having trouble finding good dudes

 

[Van Cleef]

When you out in the field you realize nothing has changed
Same shyt that applied 10 years ago applies today

Approaches
Conversation skills
Good appearance
Not being creepy
Etc


90 percent of the women don’t care about the follower count

Good appearance = Drip

 

[High Art]

That's a good question.

I think that it's a matter of habitual and social norms since we're so used to men doing the approaching and pursuing for so long in society.

Another aspect, though, is that women have more to lose by pursuing the wrong type of man so they're less likely to play the numbers game compared to men just for the sake of their own safety.

Hell, my sister gave money to a homeless man the other day and listened to him tell his story about how he became homeless and the homeless man started mistaking her concern for romantic interest and got aggressive and told my sister that she should become his new girlfriend. And whatever sympathy my sister had for the homeless guy went out the window once he said that.

Obviously, that's a bit of an extreme example but there's more risk in women openly showing interest in random men they don't know or even being overly nice towards random men they don't know. It's f*cked up and the average man is harmless for sure but the possibility alone frightens a lot of women so they usually wait until they really know a man before they openly express interest in him.

Also, some women might worry that approaching many men in public might lead to the perception of them being "loose."

I'm sorry that happened. It does seem to give more credence to the idea of approaching via digital means, that is, dms and so on, something I've seen panned by some and many on this website as well. The other problem is that if the issue is aggressive men, then the idea of encouraging men to be the ones approaching does not seem like a good idea altogether either since it does little to solve the issue of this aggressiveness and if anything, creates a process that would lead to more of them, whether it be from rejection, competition, or just sheer stress, the latter many people have enough of or creates more situations where aggressive behavior can occur.

I can't speak for many of these guys but it honestly feels like many of them are tired of a system that does little to reward them. It is filled with a lot of people advocating for a return to a more traditional process while simultaneously, pushing for modern sensibilities as well. People having their cake and eating it too all balanced against them and it seems like they are so fed up, they are checking out.

 

[Warren Peace]

Breh look out for the next wave coming down the pipe, the only fans chicks who cashed out and on rebrand tour.. Someone could probably start a thread cuz I see it coming already.. Couple chicks in area started the whole saved by jesus route and I see it might be next wave to get money

Destoryed me

 

[Mindfield333]

The more y’all internalize the gross generalizations in these articles the more it become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I’m a firm believer that thoughts become things… iykyk

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Good appearance = Drip

No it doesnt
Know your target audience

 

[Piffiztheanswer]

come on fellas keep trying

 

[Gloxina]

Breh look out for the next wave coming down the pipe, the only fans chicks who cashed out and on rebrand tour.. Someone could probably start a thread cuz I see it coming already.. Couple chicks in area started the whole saved by jesus route and I see it might be next wave to get money

I heard an older woman say it, and it’s true. There are some ppl who were misguided and had to learn lessons or just wanted to live that “lifestyle”.
You can’t strip/dance forever
You can’t prostitute forever
You can’t sell drugs/be on the corner forever

All these ppl get older and switch it up.

Hell. Half the preachers tell stories about their “backsliding” days
Plenty of women sitting in the church with stories.

Bunch of ppl were wild as all hell in their youth. Some ppl get caught up, some ppl stay in the game too long, some ppl have no guidance at home and they just follow whatever is fun or on trend until they learn better.

The difference now is everyone put their business online so instead of rebranding by staying out of the club or moving to the next town, they have to rebrand online.

But humans…don’t change. Lol This isn’t an unusual pattern. It definitely sucks if you put all of your business online though.

 

[AStrangeName]

Breh look out for the next wave coming down the pipe, the only fans chicks who cashed out and on rebrand tour.. Someone could probably start a thread cuz I see it coming already.. Couple chicks in area started the whole saved by jesus route and I see it might be next wave to get money

They been doing the saved by Jesus tour for a good two years now, but I don't think people will sympathize them much like the ones before them.

 

[SNG]

I think porn is a culprit for sure. I remember when I broke up in a previous relationship how depressed I was for the first month and the second month I stopped beating my dikk and went to the gym. Had tinder, bumble, going ham also was going out every other weekend not even a month and half later nikka was having one night stands, going on dates getting cussed out by chicks making out with Asian chicks from the club, going to Dominican and having some random beautiful Dominican chick I met in the lobby that same night ask my homey what room I was staying at and knocked on my door to fukk. This was all in the year 2018.

I don’t care what nikkaz say I’m not saying women aren’t issue but nikkaz are an issue too. You can eat out here if you put the work into do it.