when the reporters jealously of athletes led them to wanting to be as big as athletes
Real talk, what Is the overall objective of sports media/journalism?
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Man, the majority of ppl inherently want to be TOLD what to think, rather than hearing stats/fact then making their own opinion.
It's the reason CNN is in last place in the ratings. They dont spin or lean too hard to either side. It's why Fox News is in first place. People like to be told the story, slanted facts....then be told what to think by someone elses opinion whos is probably similar to theirs. It gives them a hard angle to learn towards, b/c god forbid you dont lean left or right on a subject or in this case an athlete or team.
In any case, it's natural that you have an opinion as to why a team didnt win. Everyone has a different view/opinion.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
journalism in general is tough to classify, because it is based on journalists needing to report shyt even when there isnt shiit to report.
I used to want to be a journalist when I was little but as I grew up, I figured it was an ungrateful profession that also basically made you a prostitute.
its one thing to report facts to the public, but putting a spin/subjective angle isnt needed as much. but it generates profits and stirs up discussion.
the most stupid twitter comment by an espn 'personality' will generate FAR more views, comments and discussion than the best-reported piece of news/very interesting interview that has no spin to it.
sports journalism (and specifically espn) became entertainment central when it decided to be entertaining 24/7.
there just isnt enough shyt to talk about in sports for a whole day. as a result, there are stupid ass discussions going on for days. its one thing to have those on a forum and another to have them live on espn
I used to want to be a journalist when I was little but as I grew up, I figured it was an ungrateful profession that also basically made you a prostitute.
its one thing to report facts to the public, but putting a spin/subjective angle isnt needed as much. but it generates profits and stirs up discussion.
the most stupid twitter comment by an espn 'personality' will generate FAR more views, comments and discussion than the best-reported piece of news/very interesting interview that has no spin to it.
sports journalism (and specifically espn) became entertainment central when it decided to be entertaining 24/7.
there just isnt enough shyt to talk about in sports for a whole day. as a result, there are stupid ass discussions going on for days. its one thing to have those on a forum and another to have them live on espn
yseJ
Empire strikes back
eh, CNN leans very much ultra pro-american "imperialist" in any kind of foreign policy issues.
Bilz
Superstar
I still can't understand how Skip and Stephen A's act is entertaining to anyone.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
I resent this statement
but other than that, spot on.They could talk about a lot in sports for a whole day. There's just not enough that keeps interest.
The objective of journalism is to inform. With that said, there is very little journalism taking place today. I majored in print journalism in college and that money went to waste when I realized sensationalism, outright lying, deception, and stoking the flames of negativity were givens in the industry as opposed to the tools of a few trolls. It's an industry with a ton of responsibility that ignores that responsibility.
And I'd argue the fans took on the personality of the media.
And I'd argue the fans took on the personality of the media.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
no offense to journalists on here. there are a few ones with integrity and dignity, but theyre too few in numbers and in general are buried doing stupid work behind frauds.I resent this statement
They could talk about a lot in sports for a whole day. There's just not enough that keeps interest.
its just my opinion, but Ill stand for it. lots of journalism is basically trying to squeeze shyt out of nothing... that would cater to readers of the resource (or radically NOT cater to the readers to create a controversy)
with twitter, espn, etc... sensationalism journalism is at an all time high it seems and is most in-demand.
its also the fault of people who swallow all the media outlets.
most people dont want the raw facts, lots of them arent even interested in results and actual sports...they want stories
journalists that create stories out of nothing...out of their own sheer imagination to compensate for lack of shyt to report...are prostitutes and frauds, sorry.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I resent this statement
They could talk about a lot in sports for a whole day. There's just not enough that keeps interest.
Exactly.
And in their rush to churn out "product" most of these writers aren't talented enough to push a prime article once a week outside the lines of keeping up with the going narrative of the moment. So their focus is on repeating the going narrative of the moment that pays.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
well Im not saying theyre not physically unable to talk about pure sports all day, lol. it just wouldnt pull ratings like that. theres not enough sports on a slow day that generates interest.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
and thats the thing. when one lacks talent and also has nothing super interesting to report...the choice is either to generate bullshyt controversial opinion...or keep going with the last "prime article" that worked, repeating yourself.
its a quirk of the journalist profession. you gotta make money but nothing interesting happens. what one does in this situation is up to them
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SirSmokeCrackAlot
Senior Crackhead
Their objective is to stay relevant.
What I don't like is they tend to tell you how you should feel about something, or make up these irrelevant dramatic story-lines. Sometimes I prefer the commentators on the radio because they just tell you what's going on, without all the extra shyt.
Its why I don't like talking about sports with alot of people. They just wanna talk about what some commentator was talking about. Don't you have an opinion of your own?
What I don't like is they tend to tell you how you should feel about something, or make up these irrelevant dramatic story-lines. Sometimes I prefer the commentators on the radio because they just tell you what's going on, without all the extra shyt.
Its why I don't like talking about sports with alot of people. They just wanna talk about what some commentator was talking about. Don't you have an opinion of your own?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
and thats the thing. when one lacks talent and also has nothing super interesting to report...the choice is either to generate bullshyt controversial opinion...or keep going with the last "prime article" that worked, repeating yourself.
its a quirk of the journalist profession. you gotta make money but nothing interesting happens. what one does in this situation is up to them
Black Sheep - The Choice Is Yours - YouTube
Exactly.
It's that "keeping up with the Joneses" brand of journalism which isn't journalism. Dog...it sometimes takes me a good week and a half to push a good write up. It's harder for me to do so now working full time, and having a family, so I rather not write if I don't have the time to invest in it. But these lazy dudes see the going narrative of the moment that pays, and piggyback off of it, regardless if it makes any ethical sense.
shyt is just lazy and repetative noise.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
yea and thats another thing. getting a good writeup takes mad TIME and hard work. I see some great interviews even on espn's site sometimes, and you bet they take mad time to put together, edit, and all that.
I know how tough it is to write in general, I write some fiction purely for fun and the writers blocks that I get are ridic, sometimes I dont touch shyt for months. and thats shyt I can make up on the fly.
these writers and journalists churning out rehashed opinions every single day in a different shell...oversaturating the whole field with bullshyt. and with twitter, its even more convenient. write some controversial thing, then have an article defending your stance and eat off it for weeks
I know how tough it is to write in general, I write some fiction purely for fun and the writers blocks that I get are ridic, sometimes I dont touch shyt for months. and thats shyt I can make up on the fly.
these writers and journalists churning out rehashed opinions every single day in a different shell...oversaturating the whole field with bullshyt. and with twitter, its even more convenient. write some controversial thing, then have an article defending your stance and eat off it for weeks
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
yea and thats another thing. getting a good writeup takes mad TIME and hard work. I see some great interviews even on espn's site sometimes, and you bet they take mad time to put together, edit, and all that.
I know how tough it is to write in general, I write some fiction purely for fun and the writers blocks that I get are ridic, sometimes I dont touch shyt for months. and thats shyt I can make up on the fly.
these writers and journalists churning out rehashed opinions every single day in a different shell...oversaturating the whole field with bullshyt. and with twitter, its even more convenient. write some controversial thing, then have an article defending your stance and eat off it for weeks
YUP!!!
You also just gave a good description of the music industry. LOL!!!
That's why I fukks with Jill Scott. She drops quality shyt once every 3 or 4 years because she takes her craft seriously while everyone is churning out bullshyt every year.
