Real Giants Wear Blue:New York Giants vs San Francisco 49ers

[yseJ]

Is that what you want? For the game to be on Eli's shoulders?

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I watch every 49er snap, and thanks to replays on youtube, I watch every play multiple times


Im not a nitpicker, Ill post interesting stats when I feel like it. I like my team to play better and improve on plays where the outcome was good in spite of individual players fukking up. ie, that culliver pick last week against fitz, when the WR had culliver beat by 3 steps.


so because its obscure to you it must be obscure to everyone ? its not obscure in any way, its the shyt people review on tapes and make note of. its not some rocket science that doesnt apply to football. like, yards per attempt is a basic ass football stat.

you want to be proud of ignorance thats fine by me, Ive already said that. keep thinking only coaches and analysts can think football...
if you dont like looking through plays, stats that back up plays and find patterns, then don't.

but please dont tell me what to do so I wont tell you where to go, aight ?

It's obscure because it is obscure, you yourself said 95% of fans don't visit that website. You basically admitted to it.

All i`m saying is you are a nitpicker, you`ll sift through these websites and try and get this information, it's not necessarily a horrible thing, but it is what you are.

When you say something like his YPA drops to second lowest in the league, do you watch every other QB on that list every play to examine what's really happening on those plays?

Also, it's a selective stat to make a point you're alluding to. You put that stat up, but it's a marginal stat that only tells you so much, to suggest the idea you want to put out there.

You place Alex as 2nd highest in the league in dropoff of YPA, but you don't mention stats like how many QB's throw picks under pressure.

You're NITPICKING stats to get whatever point across you`d like.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Damn Last Emp you red as fukk

Cats riding through threads and poppin negs at dude from the whip

Yeah, cause i`m not really kissing anyones ass up in here and trying to make e-friends like most.

I drop truth bombs and it hurts feelings.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

This Rogers-Cruz beef is heating up, I like it.

Cruz on what he expects Sunday: “Hopefully a lot of Carlos Rogers on me.”



SANTA CLARA – Victor Cruz spoke to Bay Area reporters Wednesday morning on a conference call. Here’s what he said about his rivalry with Carlos Rogers.

Q: Do you have a rivalry with Carlos Rogers?

CRUZ: I guess so. That’s what the media likes to call it, but I think it’s just friendly competition.

Q: Do you have a friendly competition with a lot of cornerbacks?

CRUZ: I think it’s just more so the things that have gone on in the times that we’ve played each other have been pretty eventful so I think that’s more so what brings it out. Carlos is probably the only guy that I have friendly competitive games against.

Q: Was Rogers’ mocking of your salsa dance an affront?

CRUZ: A little bit. Initially, it felt like a slap in the face in the first game that we played them. It wasn’t too big of a deal for me. I felt disrespected — I talked about it in my book a little bit and then I brushed it off and kept going and made sure I did my best for the rest of the season and we got a chance to play them again and I did pretty well the second time we saw each other.

Q: What was out there in the first half of the NFC Championship game?

CRUZ: There was just a lot of opportunities. They were playing a lot of leaving Carlos on me one on one underneath and I was doing a good job of manipulating him and just getting myself open and Eli was finding me time and time again.

Q: What about the second half?

CRUZ: I think they did a good job of playing more zone coverage and doing things to kind of sit back and keep us in front of them and play the ball while we were in front of them and I think we chose to run it a little bit more. Eli started to get other people involved and other stuff like that. They did a good job at halftime making some adjustments and switching things up.

Q: You said in the first half of the Championship game the 49ers were covering you one-on-one. How rare was that last year that a team would put just one cornerback on you?

CRUZ: It was a little rare. The early part of last season I was getting a lot of one-on-one coverage, and then once I started to do well it kind of switched up. In the Championship game I knew they had a lot of confidence in Carlos – he was a Pro Bowler that year and he’s a good player. I think that’s the reason they did that. I kind of expect the same thing this week, and hopefully we can be able to dominate.

Q: What are you expecting Sunday?

CRUZ: From what we’re seeing on film, some man coverage out there, some zone as well. Hopefully the same thing I got last year, a lot of Carlos Rogers on me and the usual things and hopefully I can do some of the same things I did last year.

Q: Was there talking on the field in second game between you and Rogers?

CRUZ: No, not really. It was more so us just playing football out there and wasn’t a lot of talking going on back and forth.

Q: If Carlos does the salsa again are you going to be OK with that?

CRUZ: I obviously won’t be OK with that but it is what it is. He’s going to choose to do what he wants to do. It is what it is. I’m not going to try to retaliate or do something crazy. That’s not me. It obviously won’t sit well with me as I’ve stated before in the past.

Q: Why is the salsa dance so important to you?

CRUZ: It’s just something that I do for my grandmother, and it’s something that’s sacred for me, something that due to her passing and even before she passed away it was something that was dear to me. Why I do it is for her because she told me she loved it so much and she taught me how to do it and all of that put together. Knowing that, it’s just a little slap in the face but everybody’s different.

 

[yseJ]

It's obscure because it is obscure, you yourself said 95% of fans don't visit that website. You basically admitted to it.

All i`m saying is you are a nitpicker, you`ll sift through these websites and try and get this information, it's not necessarily a horrible thing, but it is what you are.

When you say something like his YPA drops to second lowest in the league, do you watch every other QB on that list every play?

Also, it's a selective stat to make a point you're alluding to. You put that stat up, but it's a marginal stat that only tells you so much, to suggest the idea you want to put out there.

You place Alex as 2nd highest in the league in dropoff of YPA, but you don't mention stats like how many QB's throw picks under pressure.

You're NITPICKING stats to get whatever point across you`d like.

I posted what was said for our team in 'weekly observation' section. I directly quoted it. I didnt make any conclusions whatsoever, besides jokingly saying the line better hold up. thats not a stat I made up. I thought it was interesting.


seriously, Im getting tired of this bullshyt.

you know damn well (or I hope u do) I have zero bias for or against alex as Ive defended him plenty when he was unfairly criticized. but this is too much.

I didnt even say it makes him a worse QB. it just tells you when there's pressure unlike other qbs who either throw picks or make bigger plays, alex usually keeps it safe and tends to not go for the bigger play.

which is perfectly fine and in fact it might be better that way because youre bound to make stupid mistakes.

you are such captain save a player you like. seriously.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I posted what was said for our team in 'weekly observation' section. I directly quoted it. I didnt make any conclusions whatsoever, besides jokingly saying the line better hold up. thats not a stat I made up. I thought it was interesting.


seriously, Im getting tired of this bullshyt.

you know damn well (or I hope u do) I have zero bias for or against alex as Ive defended him plenty when he was unfairly criticized. but this is too much.

I didnt even say it makes him a worse QB. it just tells you when there's pressure unlike other qbs who either throw picks or make bigger plays, alex usually keeps it safe and tends to not go for the bigger play.

which is perfectly fine and in fact it might be better that way because youre bound to make stupid mistakes.

you are such captain save a player you like. seriously.

I don't think you got a problem with Alex specifically, I just think you're a nitpicker and a pessimist.

You got to see how someone would think this when the team is 4-1 the QB is ranked highest in the NFL and you're talking about his YPA under pressure ranking.

C`mon man. I understand how we have a history as a team where you don't want to get ahead of ourselves because we know what it's like to watch the team fail, but at some point you have to relax and enjoy it, You don't have to go wild and brag and think we're flawless, but there is such a thing as a buzzkill and you do a good job defining that at times

 

[yseJ]

a marginal stat that only tells you so much, to suggest the idea you want to put out there.

the problem is, the idea is in YOUR head. you see me insinuating things that just arent there. there was no idea I tried to "put out there"

 

[Crack Daniels]

This thread fukking sucks.

 

[yseJ]

I don't think you got a problem with Alex specifically, I just think you're a nitpicker and a pessimist.

You got to see how someone would think this when the team is 4-1 the QB is ranked highest in the NFL and you're talking about his YPA under pressure ranking.

C`mon man.

pessimist, yes. nitpicking, well depends on definition

the record doesnt have to do with anything. arizona's record is 4-1 too. so would you suggest for arizona's fans to ignore their offensive line woes ?

Im not gonna get started on qb rating, but let me just say Im pretty sure a QB you call garbage on daily basis (whose first name rhymes with 'dark') had a 4-1 start in 2010 with 8 tds and zero picks and led the league in qb rating or was very close to it yet one QB is utter trash and the other is holier than thou in your eyes.

so if your definition of nitpicking is NOT living from win to loss, looking only at the final result instead of looking at WHAT caused the result
then yes, Im nitpicking. and I hope everyone is nitpicking tbh instead of blindly cheerleading

 

[Big Dick]

Might have to call out of work for this one. Only civilized thing to do.

Lol @ the bickering. Some sonnings being handed out but tensions are bound to run high before a game like this. Gonna be close. The Niners are gonna play with even more of a chip on their shoulders this game.

GGKTA

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

the problem is, the idea is in YOUR head. you see me insinuating things that just arent there. there was no idea I tried to "put out there"

Well you're alluding to the idea that Alex is bad under pressure by posting that stat.

In other posts you seem to look for the negative, like 2 weeks ago when we beat NYJ you were having complaints with the deep ball. Then we win vs. Buffalo and now you're saying he doesn't go through his progressions.

Now you're up in here talking about YPA going down under pressure.

I just don't see how you can't see the pessimism.

 

[yseJ]

Might have to call out of work for this one. Only civilized thing to do.

Lol @ the bickering. Some sonnings being handed out but tensions are bound to run high before a game like this. Gonna be close. The Niners are gonna play with even more of a chip on their shoulders this game.

GGKTA

this game finna be intense. itll prolly come down to the final drive anyway

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

pessimist, yes. nitpicking, well depends on definition

the record doesnt have to do with anything. arizona's record is 4-1 too. so would you suggest for arizona's fans to ignore their offensive line woes ?

Im not gonna get started on qb rating, but let me just say Im pretty sure a QB you call garbage on daily basis (whose first name rhymes with 'dark') had a 4-1 start in 2010 with 8 tds and zero picks and led the league in qb rating or was very close to it yet one QB is utter trash and the other is holier than thou in your eyes.

so if your definition of nitpicking is NOT living from win to loss, looking only at the final result instead of looking at WHAT caused the result
then yes, Im nitpicking. and I hope everyone is nitpicking tbh instead of blindly cheerleading

But i`m not hear crowning Alex either am I? I`m not putting his name in lights.

And as for Marky Mark, he didn't have the a season like Alex did the year before to allow for the optimism, he much felt like he was playing over his head for a few games and he was.

The play Alex has been exhibiting is more of the norm for him when you put together all his games since Harbaugh got here.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

this game finna be intense. itll prolly come down to the final drive anyway

Call me crazy, don't think it will. I think we end up winning by a TD or more comfortably.

Giants D has looked pedestrian all year and I expect the offense to have another big game.

Michael Coe? Princess Amukamara?

 

[yseJ]

Well you're alluding to the idea that Alex is bad under pressure by posting that stat.

In other posts you seem to look for the negative, like 2 weeks ago when we beat NYJ you were having complaints with the deep ball. Then we win vs. Buffalo and now you're saying he doesn't go through his progressions.

Now you're up in here talking about YPA going down under pressure.

I just don't see how you can't see the pessimism.

like Ive said, youre wrong on the first one

and on the second one, fact is alex always been inaccurate with the deep ball. just because we won the game doesnt negate that. one game in buffalo is not enough of sample size either...

Im just less likely to point out good plays because everyone sees them. Like I can have 15 posts on how great our ILBs are...but is it really needed ? I point out bad plays and good plays both tho. when alex makes a great deep throw or when goldson defends a pass well Ill point it out.

you just think Im ultra pessimistic because you have a different mindset of approaching games. youre on some "we got this, fukk you" steez.
Im on observe and methodically figure out what can be done even better.