Ready To Die vs Illmatic (Poll)

[Zach Lowe]

they're not seeing k rhino that's for sure

 

[Black Ball]

I found this an interesting post. More entertaining and pleasurable to listen to, that's how I feel. And that's important to me.

In regards to the first bit, I would challenge that, Biggie was spittin amazingly on the album, better than Nas to me.

To me, especially on 1st impression, Nas's rhyming on that album is mind blowing. Like "I aint never heard a nikka rhyme like this before" good. But Big of course is more charismatic and over time you gonna connect more and care about what he's actually saying in his rhymes. While with Nas, after the initial wow factor, I didn't really care what he was rapping about.

 

[The Ruler 09]

but whos better k rhino or z ro

Are you ever going to get over being exposed? Lol. Or are you just going to come into every thread saying the same shyt? Lol. It's up to you, I certainly don't mind you mentioning K-Rino or Z-Ro, the more dope artists names mentioned the better. Didn't realize Drake meant so much to you lol.

 

[ISO]

Oh seen, ok I guess that's personal preference as I liked those songs. I like the fact it sounded and felt more diverse, as it makes it relateable to more people while still being quality. It was still a pretty raw album if you break it down. I don't feel like everything has to be serious to be great, I feel like there's different styles, I liked Biggie's humor, in songs, the skit I didn't find amazing but wasn't bad enough to detract from the great album to me. Ilmatic is a very tight album, and is cohesive, that's 1 of the reasons I like it, and has a bunch of classic songs too. I personally just feel like RTD touched me in different ways, and I like that. Biggie as an MC probably displayed more than Nas on that album I feel. Really? Dope song, always liked it, but wasn't it just a letter? Lol. Gimmie The Loot, Warning, Suicidal Thoughts I felt were all high level concept records and quite innovative. But yeah, both classics so it's all good man.

Warning was genius

It was a letter, but to that point that was something I never heard before and it was relateable for so many people at that time and even to this day. The third verse is a first person story of a conversation between Nas and a young boy on a park bench who was out packing guns and selling crack shyt was picture painting. It's a conceptually genius song and it's powerful.

Only thing I felt B.I.G. outdid Nas in was the mic presence and he had more storytelling tracks, I don't think he was spitting better than Nas at all from a technical level.

 

[The Ruler 09]

To me, especially on 1st impression, Nas's rhyming on that album is mind blowing. Like "I aint never heard a nikka rhyme like this before" good. But Big of course is more charismatic and over time you gonna connect more and care about what he's actually saying in his rhymes. While with Nas, after the initial wow factor, I didn't really care what he was rapping about.

Nas is rhyming ill no doubt. But I'd suggest 1 day to listen again, but factor in everything, flow, inflections, flavour, content, rhythm, and other things and see what you think. Cause Big is spittin crazy on that album. Ripped it. I certainly care more about what Big is rappin about, and I don't thin that is a coincidence, it's due to the mastery in Big's delivery, flow, rhythm, vocal presence, emotion, tones, and other shyt.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

Are you ever going to get over being exposed? Lol. Or are you just going to come into every thread saying the same shyt? Lol. It's up to you, I certainly don't mind you mentioning K-Rino or Z-Ro, the more dope artists names mentioned the better. Didn't realize Drake meant so much to you lol.

expose what clown? that your an idiot who wants to fukk k rhino?...

 

[The Ruler 09]

Warning was genius

It was a letter, but to that point that was something I never heard before and it was relateable for so many people at that time and even to this day. The third verse is a first person story of a conversation between Nas and a young boy on a park bench who was out packing guns and selling crack shyt was picture painting. It's a conceptually genius song and it's powerful.

Only thing I felt B.I.G. outdid Nas in was the mic presence and he had more storytelling tracks, I don't think he was spitting better than Nas at all from a technical level.

I always felt Illmatic was a concept album. I thought Ready To Die was too. Illmatic to me is a concept album about a young man from QB and taking you into his life/perspective from the streets, an intelligent man that's in that street life as an observer/participator at times. I think Illmatic is more localized in that sense, it captures a mentality/attitude/aura, while RTD to me feels more universe and a bigger record. So I get what your saying, Nas embodied something on Illmatic, he captured something similar to how Melle Mel did on The Message, I think that's 1 of the reasons it's acclaimed so highly. I think he was, depending what you factor in as technical.

 

[The Ruler 09]

expose what clown? that your an idiot who wants to fukk k rhino?...

You got exposed for talking shyt and being ignorant and not knowing what the fukk your talking about. You have some weird thoughts. You also got exposed for being on Drake's dikk hard, and getting all emotional and upset because people thought Z-RO was better lmao. Typical p*ssy bytch made cocksucker, reflects the music you listen to.

 

[Black Ball]

Nas is rhyming ill no doubt. But I'd suggest 1 day to listen again, but factor in everything, flow, inflections, flavour, content, and other things and see what you think. Cause Big is spittin crazy on that album. Ripped it. I certainly care more about what Big is rappin about, and I don't thin that is a coincidence, it's due to the mastery in Big's delivery, flow, rhythm, vocal presence, emotion, tones, and other shyt.

I basically agree with all of this. I just think you can't deny that Nas is spittin better on a technical level. But all the other stuff combined, you can still say that Big is a better "Rapper" than Nas.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

You got exposed for talking shyt and being ignorant and not knowing what the fukk your talking about. You have some weird thoughts. You also got exposed for being on Drake's dikk hard, and getting all emotional and upset because people thought Z-RO was better lmao. Typical p*ssy bytch made cocksucker, reflects the music you listen to.

if im p*ssy then come fukk me coward...everyone knows im not a drake fan...but i can admit he is much better than zro...

 

[Zach Lowe]

fukk a technical level what are we counting multis and shyt

Biggie is more entertaining and better

 

[The Ruler 09]

I basically agree with all of this. I just think you can't deny that Nas is spittin better on a technical level. But all the other stuff combined, you can still say that Big is a better "Rapper" than Nas.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by technical level.

 

[The Ruler 09]

if im p*ssy then come fukk me coward...everyone knows im not a drake fan...but i can admit he is much better than zro...

Damn man, you make it worse for yourself every time you talk. What kind of warped homosexual thoughts do you have? I'm straight, so I'd save that talk for Drake and them. Get over it, go do some Mister Cee type activities that you Drake cocksuckers like to do and leave the real people to listen to Z-Ro and the like.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

Damn man, you make it worse for yourself every time you talk. What kind of warped homosexual thoughts do you have? I'm straight, so I'd save that talk for Drake and them. Get over it, go do some Mister Cee type activities that you Drake cocksuckers like to do and leave the real people to listen to Z-Ro and the like.

drake > z ro

 

[The Ruler 09]

drake > z ro

Go play this to your boyfriend p*ssy boy.



And lol, whatever, you can say that all you want, don't change the fact it ain't true...