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I’m pointing out you and your cohort’s feminine behavior that is running rampant in this thread.

You decided to quote me because I struck a nerve. Typical feminine shyt.

Quote me where I said colorism isn’t bs?

It’s pathetic. I’ve never seen grown men cry like this. Literally known of my lightskin nikkas bytch like you do. I’ve only heard women complain about this shyt. This thread is straight twilight zone status.
ignorance is tantamount to masculinity to you¿

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The thing is, even that bolded quote seems to imply that dark skinned people are considered less attractive and brutish compared to light skinned people.

By the standards of 1890s southern white society. Yes. But are you arguing that dark skin men had it worse because they didn’t have sexual access to racist southern white women like their lighter skin counterparts?

It seems to imply that being lynched was a result of their lighter skin giving them more access to culture and refinement than dark skin people have access to.

Exactly. Their proximity to whiteness made them closer targets when retaliation occurred. They were under scrutiny that their darker skinned counter parts were not under.

On the plantation, when things went missing from the house, it was the house slave first that was accused of stealing.

House slave women had to be subjected to all kinds of cruelty if the wife of the master was jealous of them.

There was freedom in not having that sort of access to whiteness. Likewise, their was an imprisonment for those that did.

House slaves could not go and worship with the field slaves because they had to accompany their masters to church. The Black Church would not be what it is today if the field slaves had not the freedom to go off and express themselves in worship in their own manner.

We tend to look at the “privileges” but don’t look at what came with the privileges which was tighter scrutiny and punishment. We tend to look at “proximity” but don’t see the relative freedom in having distance.
 

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I think it’s wrong for us to play the oppression Olympics on which skin tone had it “worse”. All of us have been through some fukked up shyt by way of just being “Negro”.

But I do want to address the idea that “dark skin” had it historically worse.

The Wilmington Coup, the first and only successfull coup in United States history, was instigated by a white woman named Rebecca Felton, a journalist with the Atlanta Constitution, and the wife of a Georgia populist politician, who had this to say on the matter of the wives of white farmers:

When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue — if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession from the ravening human beasts — then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.”


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Alexander Manly (pictured above), the editor of the Wilmington Daily Record, the largest black daily publication at the time, published this in response to Felton....

.....We suggest that the whites guard their women more closely, as Mrs. Felton says, thus giving no opportunity for the human fiend, be he white or black. You leave your goods out of doors and then complain because they are taken away. Poor white men are careless in the matter of protecting their women, especially on the farms. They are careless of their conduct toward them and our experience teaches us that the women of that race are not any more particular in the matter of clandestine meetings with colored men than are the white men with colored women. Meetings of this kind go on for some time until the woman’s infatuation, or the man’s boldness, bring attention to them, and the man is lynched for rape. Every Negro lynched is called a “big burly, black brute,” when in fact many of those who have thus been dealt with had white men for their fathers, and were not only not “black” and “burly” but were sufficiently attractive for white girls of culture and refinement to fall in love with them as is very well known to all.

Mrs. Felton must begin at the fountain head if she wishes to purify the stream.

Teach your men purity. Let virtue be something more than an excuse for them to intimidate and torture a helpless people. Tell your men that it is no worse for a black man to be intimate with a white woman than for the white man to be intimate with a colored woman.

You set yourselves down as a lot of carping hypocrites in fact you cry aloud for the virtue of your women while you seek to destroy the morality of ours. Don’t ever think that your women will remain pure while you are debauching ours. You sow the seed — the harvest will come in due time.


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I don’t want to even touch upon the entirety of this soul burning ether Manly delivered to white southerners, but it was so soul burning that the white men of Wilmington’s Democratic Party used it as ammo to commence a coup against the city’s black Republican office holders.

What I do want to highlight is the prevailing thought that most of the black men being lynched at the time under accusations of rape were light skin men.

Every Negro lynched is called a “big burly, black brute,” when in fact many of those who have thus been dealt with had white men for their fathers, and were not only not “black” and “burly” but were sufficiently attractive for white girls of culture and refinement to fall in love with them as is very well known to all.

So I don’t think it’s fair for us to play this oppression Olympics as we all have felt the pains of white supremacy. I’m not claiming that light skin people had it worse either, but that they suffered along with their darker skin brethren.

What happened to Manly? The black business leaders rejected him for his stinging response citing him as the reason for the Wilmington Coup and the violence that befell the city. Manly had no backing from the black community and was ran out of town while his business was burned to the ground.

Gotta say, this Manly cat was polished poison in his response.

Dope, colorist tone notwithstanding.
 
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Again, that’s like being the tallest midget.

You do you breh. Next time let that man speak for himself. The dikkriding ain’t cool.

You don't know tha definition of dicc riding so lemme break it down to you.

Dic riding: Agreeing with everythang tha next mf do or say.

I ain't never dicc rode. But you soundin questionable picturing me riding his dic :dame:
 

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i don't think that's what the quote meant.

he added that line to point out wm's relations with bw made it hypocritical of them to lynch bm/mixed men for having relations with ww

"They are careless of their conduct toward them and our experience teaches us that the women of that race are not any more particular in the matter of clandestine meetings with colored men than are the white men with colored women. Meetings of this kind go on for some time until the woman’s infatuation, or the man’s boldness, bring attention to them, and the man is lynched for rape. Every Negro lynched is called a “big burly, black brute,” when in fact many of those who have thus been dealt with had white men for their fathers"

I can see your angle and it would be correct if he stopped there, but then he follows up with...

and were not only not “black” and “burly” but were sufficiently attractive for white girls of culture and refinement to fall in love with them as is very well known to all.

It wasn’t just enough for him to point out that the men being lynched had white fathers, but how their skin color and attractiveness stood in stark contrast to the “beastly” and “feral” way they were being portrayed as to incite fear and protest. And that, despite media distortions, it was “very well known to all.”
 

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We tend to look at the “privileges” but don’t look at what came with the privileges which was tighter scrutiny and punishment. We tend to look at “proximity” but don’t see the relative freedom in having distance.

Which is why we did better as a community under segregation than in integration.
 

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I can see your angle and it would be correct if he stopped there, but then he follows up with...

and were not only not “black” and “burly” but were sufficiently attractive for white girls of culture and refinement to fall in love with them as is very well known to all.

It wasn’t just enough for him to point out that the men being lynched had white fathers, but how their skin color and attractiveness stood in stark contrast to the “beastly” and “feral” way they were being portrayed as to incite fear and protest. And that, despite media distortions, it was “very well known to all.”

i'm not following. you might be looking too much into the skin tone portion

or else you're indirectly proving the point of the others considering this mixed race man (author/paper owner) from two free/freed (pre-emancipation) parents in a position of influence over black people & their image looks down on and dehumanizes darker people as beasts:dwillhuh:. i do not think that references skin tone, but if that's what you're arguing about him fine

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the remainder literally backs up what i said about this being about hypocrisy

the "burly brute" part is referencing the accusation of rape these lynched men face & the portion you reference is to address that making it clear that these lynched men were mis-characterized because of consensual sex they had with so-called gentle women who found them attractive enough to spread their legs

he follows:
Teach your men purity. Let virtue be something more than an excuse for them to intimidate and torture a helpless people. Tell your men that it is no worse for a black man to be intimate with a white woman than for the white man to be intimate with a colored woman.

You set yourselves down as a lot of carping hypocrites in fact you cry aloud for the virtue of your women while you seek to destroy the morality of ours. Don’t ever think that your women will remain pure while you are debauching ours.
 
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Because being one complexion doesnt always mean your parents are the same shade, my dad is light skinned, my mom is dark, and i’m in the middle of them two. I feel like that qualifies me to know a lit
tle bit about both perspectives.

My parents are the same too
 
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