Rappin' 4-Tay Doesn't Seem Too Thrilled With Drake Using His Lyrics In New Track with YG

[Olu Dara]

Ive never heard it either but it has close to 20 million views all together (if you search the same song on youtube). My point was that a top 36 song is more than regional. We have never heard that song because it isnt in a genre we would listen to..

Of course it's more than regional, but 4tay was never a household name breh. 90% of kids listening to hiphop today don't even know who rappin 4tay is

 

[Bay Area]

Of course it's more than regional, but 4tay was never a household name breh. 90% of kids listening to hiphop today don't even know who rappin 4tay is

I couldnt tell you who made the Macarena song but that doesnt mean that everyone wasnt doing the dance back in the day. What does being a household name have to do with anything? You dont have to be a household name to have a hit song.

 

[Bay Area]

i doubt that drake was anywhere near hip-hop at that time. so there goes that theory.

@ a "obscure regional rap song" being a top 40 pop hit in 1994... There wasn't a goddamn thing obscure nor regional bout playaz club. ..it's a seminal west coast classic that dropped during a time when the west ran hip hop...I grew up like 1000 miles from the bay and heard this shyt on the radio and watched the video on the Box everyday for the better part of a year

 

[SunZoo]

As a Pac stan I don't see how you can over look 'Some playa shyt with 4 tay...'

I didn't overlook it at all, i'm just saying that him having a hit song and a feature on a pac album didn't put him in the lime light like that to the general public then, let alone now. Agree or Disagree?

Did don't fight the feeling go gold?

 

[SunZoo]

I couldnt tell you who made the Macarena song but that doesnt mean that everyone wasnt doing the dance back in the day. What does being a household name have to do with anything? You dont have to be a household name to have a hit song.

nikka the Macarena is a novelty, once in a life time song, you don't know who they are because the song is much bigger than them.

Playerz club was one of many west coast classics being dropped during that time period, the gap between how big the song is compared to the artist is not that wide in this case.



To make a comparison that isn't outlandish, this peaked at 21 on the hot 100 and got grammy nods.

If i went and recorded a song and started it of like

"We came in the game, plain ya see
Average man when the rest was ashamed to be
Nappy head and all, ain't no changin me.."

You think people in general would know what song I was "paying homage" to? Or would Big V have to get on twitter and check me about it?

 

[Bay Area]

nikka the Macarena is a novelty, once in a life time song, you don't know who they are because the song is much bigger than them.

Playerz club was one of many west coast classics being dropped during that time period, the gap between how big the song is compared to the artist is not that wide in this case., Po' Folks isnt.



To make a comparison that isn't outlandish, this peaked at 21 on the hot 100 and got grammy nods.

If i went and recorded a song and started it of like

"We came in the game, plain ya see
Average man when the rest was ashamed to be
Nappy head and all, ain't no changin me.."

You think people in general would know what song I was "paying homage" to? Or would Big V have to get on twitter and check me about it?

The difference is Playaz Club is considered a classic. Ill put it this way, Playaz Club was a nation wide hit that stayed a classic on the West Coast while Po' Folks was a nation wide hit that came and went. You're whole argument is that Drake is paying homage to the West on a West Coast song, he's "paying homage" because the song obviously has more lasting value than a song like Po' Folks.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

The difference is Playaz Club is considered a classic. Ill put it this way, Playaz Club was a nation wide hit that stayed a classic on the West Coast while Po' Folks was a nation wide hit that came and went. You're whole argument is that Drake is paying homage to the West on a West Coast song, he's "paying homage" because the song obviously has more lasting value than a song like Po' Folks.

actually, that run that the nappy roots had with their 1st album was by far bigger than anything rappin 4-tay ever did.

nappy roots were performing at the AMAs and nominated at the grammys.

no comparison. and lets not act like rappin 4-tay had seminal rap classics in hip-hop like say an mc eitht.

and even then, most people wouldnt be able to identify a nappy roots quote. so where does that leave a guy like rappin 4-tay? come on man. this thread done went so far off-topic for no reason.

Of course it's more than regional, but 4tay was never a household name breh. 90% of kids listening to hiphop today don't even know who rappin 4tay is

truth be told, at least 50% of kids listening to hip-hop in the '90s have never heard of rappin 4-tay to this day.

but according to these guys, he was a major major player because he made it to #36 on billboard.

I couldnt tell you who made the Macarena song but that doesnt mean that everyone wasnt doing the dance back in the day. What does being a household name have to do with anything? You dont have to be a household name to have a hit song.

you comparing this to the macarena?

REALLY?


rappin 4-tay may have made a splash where hes at. i never said that he couldnt leave cali.

im just saying that dude was non-existant in ALOT of markets. thats all im saying.

also, that dude youre quoting has no real credibility. i didnt even know he was alive in '94. i may be wrong about the latter. im not really here to down the bul but im just saying.

 

[Bay Area]

actually, that run that the nappy roots had with their 1st album was by far bigger than anything rappin 4-tay ever did.

nappy roots were performing at the AMAs and nominated at the grammys.

no comparison. and lets not act like rappin 4-tay had seminal rap classics in hip-hop like say an mc eitht.

and even then, most people wouldnt be able to identify a nappy roots quote. so where does that leave a guy like rappin 4-tay? come on man. this thread done went so far off-topic for no reason.



truth be told, at least 50% of kids listening to hip-hop in the '90s have never heard of rappin 4-tay to this day.

but according to these guys, he was a major major player because he made it to #36 on billboard.



you comparing this to the macarena?

REALLY?



rappin 4-tay may have made a splash where hes at. i never said that he couldnt leave cali.

im just saying that dude was non-existant in ALOT of markets. thats all im saying.

also, that dude youre quoting has no real credibility. i didnt even know he was alive in '94. i may be wrong about the latter. im not really here to down the bul but im just saying.

I dont even feel like debating this anymore bruh, it redundant. Drake stole lyrics, DJ Mustard and YG have been stealing the bays swag for 2-3 years without giving credit where its due. Until these nikkas start acknowledging their blatant biting then they are going to continually be called out for it

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I didn't overlook it at all, i'm just saying that him having a hit song and a feature on a pac album didn't put him in the lime light like that to the general public then, let alone now. Agree or Disagree?

Did don't fight the feeling go gold?

Now of course not. Sadly he's a forgotten artist from the Bay at this point, aside from this Drake thing....which I guess should somewhat give Drake a pass???

Then? Sure. He was way more known than Dru Down or Richie Rich, that's for sure. Was he a top tier? No but he certainly was up towards the top in the Bay.

I don't know if fight the feeling went gold, I dont even know if Life Is itself went gold.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

so he was big because he was on a 2pac record?

lol @ that song being as big as "5 on it". numbers and hip-hop dont mix. numbers usually tell less than half of the story.

honestly, i dont even remember dru down & 4-tay being on pac album. i thought you were talking about dru down's appearance on "5 on it". those bay collabos on pac album dont reasonate with across the board like that. and they werent meant to. thats one of the reasons why AEOM's classic status is forever disputed.

He was bigger than Dru Down and Richie Rich, sure. Tupac was at one point the most popular rapper in the game and All Eyez On Me one of the biggest albums of all time. It's not like he's some obscure weirdo hipster artist.

I don't see how anyone who fukks with Tupac's music forgetting 'Only Got Can Judge Me' but hey, that's you. I'm not coming at your neck ever, really. Just debating hip hop, never personal.

 

[Still Benefited]

Sure they do because Rappin 4 Tay had a bigger solo song and he was on Tupac's diamond album. 5 On It was just as popular as Only God Can Judge Me, numbers don't lie. They charted at the exact same spot. The hottest verse didn't even come from Dru Down either.

@Taadow dow is saying the same thing I am, Ill wait for @StillNotSoft to chime in.

Drake should have shouted him out but I think the Internet did a good job of spreading around the information it came from 4 Tay.

I cant agree at all with Richie Rich bein in the same boat as 4tay and Dru Down,based off impact and the 2pac affiliation and being first bay rapper signed with Defjam alone I think says hes definitely more known by name across the board....far as Dru Down and 4tay I personally like Dru Down a lot more than 4tay so maybe im bias but I think we can say they in the same league...I think more people just need to acknowledge that the bay is not just "regional" and it has its own fanbase of people who follow bay area hiphop....people who follow that shyt strongly and even if they not a fan of the nikka you still know all the players involved...its no difference than somebody who follows Texas and believe me people do...people will acknowledge its people that follow east coast hiphop as if its own genre,well other regions get it like that too even if not on as large a scale....nikkas do be tryna play the bay like they regional and goin plat off the bay alone...bay era hiphop got quite the following in the Midwest and the south I gave up tryna get Wacky D to acknowledge that in that top singles thread he made...yet dudes like 2chainz,Baby,Supaunit outta New Orleans talk about they love of 40,Future talked about growin up listening to Short and 40 in his household,Jeezy named Blegit one of his favorite rappers...and Drake probably know 4tay cuz he stay in Houston,another place where bay area hiphop overall gets love....songs like Players Club,and Pimp of he year gon always be classics among cali nikkas and that fanbase of people who just love the bay area hiphop scene and will always follow it and always know whats goin on from all over....that's why I didn't have a issue with the song,its a song for bay area heads and aint no bay area head that probably wont know that's 4tay verse unless they real real young and only listen to hyphy and they oldheads aint put em up on shyt and they stay in the house

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I dont even feel like debating this anymore bruh, it redundant. Drake stole lyrics, DJ Mustard and YG have been stealing the bays swag for 2-3 years without giving credit where its due. Until these nikkas start acknowledging their blatant biting then they are going to continually be called out for it

lol. it dont even have to be all that.

its just common courtesy to pay homage when you borrow to that extent. especially if what youre borrowing doesnt reasonate with many people like that.

i didnt read much of the thread so maybe theres alot of people chittin on drake. im not mad at drake tho. i dont think hes doing it on purpose. i just think that he prolly doesnt know better since he aint cut from that cloth. thats why he constantly finds himself in these situations. hes basically learning on the fly and growing up in front of our eyes even tho hes in his mid or late 20s.

hes not the only one. alot of these new industry pushed rappers are old ass lil niccas. the only reason i still pay attention to the current mainstream scene is so that i can witness all the unintentional comedy. and theres been plenty of it the last few years.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

lol. it dont even have to be all that.

its just common courtesy to pay homage when you borrow to that extent. especially if what youre borrowing doesnt reasonate with many people like that.

i didnt read much of the thread so maybe theres alot of people chittin on drake. im not mad at drake tho. i dont think hes doing it on purpose. i just think that he prolly doesnt know better since he aint cut from that cloth. thats why he constantly finds himself in these situations. hes basically learning on the fly and growing up in front of our eyes even tho hes in his mid or late 20s.

hes not the only one. alot of these new industry pushed rappers are old ass lil niccas. the only reason i still pay attention to the current mainstream scene is so that i can witness all the unintentional comedy. and theres been plenty of it the last few years.

I honestly felt like Drake legit thought he was paying homage to a classic song and his fans would know where it came from. There's westcoast references in his entire verse.

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

The verse wasnt even hot TBH. This the shyt I never get about you cornballs. Same thing with the Jay shyt...

Hov could spit the 1st verse to Hovi Baby and end it with "bends like Twizzlers" and fakkets will ignore that he killed the 1st 16 bars of Jay original shyt and act like the Tiwzzlers shyt was the best part of the whole shyt. nikkaz disgust me joe.

you do the same thing with nas and kendrick and anyone you dont like, keep showing off you're an imbecile

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I honestly felt like Drake legit thought he was paying homage to a classic song and his fans would know where it came from. There's westcoast references in his entire verse.

i dont know man. im sure that drake knows that most of his fans dont have a hip-hop bone in their bodies, let alone knowledge of regional bay area guys like 4-tay. i agree with dude that said that drake is forcing all these homage tracks to make himself seem more hip-hop.

i dont think drake was into rap back then. maybe he googled the billboard slot and assumed that rappin 4-tay was king chit all around the globe in '94.

again, this is what happens when you dive head-first off the porch .

He was bigger than Dru Down and Richie Rich, sure. Tupac was at one point the most popular rapper in the game and All Eyez On Me one of the biggest albums of all time. It's not like he's some obscure weirdo hipster artist.

I don't see how anyone who fukks with Tupac's music forgetting 'Only Got Can Judge Me' but hey, that's you. I'm not coming at your neck ever, really. Just debating hip hop, never personal.

nothing personal. you good with me. you just had me like when you came in saying that i was downplaying the west, when my intentions were the opposite.

so having a verse on a middle-of-the road track on a 30 song double LP really makes him a bigger artist like that? if anything, richie rich benefitted from AEOM more than all those bay cats cuz he was on like 3 songs. lets not act like "only God can judge me" is a top-tier popular song on AEOM. isnt that song on the 2nd disc too? the 1st disc was alot more popular across the board.

honestly, i think more people not into the bay scene like that remember rappin 4-tay more for the skit at the beginning of "make em say ugh!" than they do for the random verse on pac album. take that how you want. thats not a bad thing tho.

i mean, how many people can name all the outlawz? how many people can name at least 1 member of thug life? people would be hard-pressed to mention mopreme, and he had a feature on a legendary r&b track before anybody even heard of pac.

I cant agree at all with Richie Rich bein in the same boat as 4tay and Dru Down,based off impact and the 2pac affiliation and being first bay rapper signed with Defjam alone I think says hes definitely more known by name across the board....far as Dru Down and 4tay I personally like Dru Down a lot more than 4tay so maybe im bias but I think we can say they in the same league...I think more people just need to acknowledge that the bay is not just "regional" and it has its own fanbase of people who follow bay area hiphop....people who follow that shyt strongly and even if they not a fan of the nikka you still know all the players involved...its no difference than somebody who follows Texas and believe me people do...people will acknowledge its people that follow east coast hiphop as if its own genre,well other regions get it like that too even if not on as large a scale....nikkas do be tryna play the bay like they regional and goin plat off the bay alone...bay era hiphop got quite the following in the Midwest and the south I gave up tryna get Wacky D to acknowledge that in that top singles thread he made...yet dudes like 2chainz,Baby,Supaunit outta New Orleans talk about they love of 40,Future talked about growin up listening to Short and 40 in his household,Jeezy named Blegit one of his favorite rappers...and Drake probably know 4tay cuz he stay in Houston,another place where bay area hiphop overall gets love....songs like Players Club,and Pimp of he year gon always be classics among cali nikkas and that fanbase of people who just love the bay area hiphop scene and will always follow it and always know whats goin on from all over....that's why I didn't have a issue with the song,its a song for bay area heads and aint no bay area head that probably wont know that's 4tay verse unless they real real young and only listen to hyphy and they oldheads aint put em up on shyt and they stay in the house

rappin 4-tay is seeing the bigger picture tho. what about the vast majority of listeners who arent bay area heads? if they like the song, theyre gonna give all the credit to drake. i totally agree with rappin 4-tay's stance. totally.

as for that list, too short is on it man. numerous bay area rappers were on it. your gripe was that e-40 didnt make the list.