Random NFL Observations 2023-24 Thread

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CJ Stroud. Patrick Mahomes. Justin Herbert. Joe burrow. Brock Purdy. Dak Prescott….

When you hit on a QB, more often than not, you know immediately!

That doesn’t mean he’s a superstar from day 1, but he’s not terrible. He’s above average. He shows QB competency and flashes of regular QB progression and puts up yards. He doesn’t need to rely on excuses. Like bruh, Joe Burrow wasn’t murdered by that o-line his first few years?! Didn’t matter

fukk the excuses! When a QB is bad it’s always the same shyt ‘it’s a new offense….uh, they got a new OC…da weapons…they’re gonna get that “kid” killed. Man if you start hearing those keywords and folk start calling your QB a ‘kid’, RUN. It is not gonna go well.

Everyone is trying to find the next Josh Allen who went from terrible to elite but that is an anomaly. 9/10 if he’s bad to start and is still bad in year 2 and for fields YEAR 3?!?! He’s just bad! Enough /rant
 

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CJ Stroud. Patrick Mahomes. Justin Herbert. Joe burrow. Brock Purdy. Dak Prescott….

When you hit on a QB, more often than not, you know immediately!

That doesn’t mean he’s a superstar from day 1, but he’s not terrible. He’s above average. He shows QB competency and flashes of regular QB progression and puts up yards. He doesn’t need to rely on excuses. Like bruh, Joe Burrow wasn’t murdered by that o-line his first few years?! Didn’t matter

fukk the excuses! When a QB is bad it’s always the same shyt ‘it’s a new offense….uh, they got a new OC…da weapons…they’re gonna get that “kid” killed. Man if you start hearing those keywords and folk start calling your QB a ‘kid’, RUN. It is not gonna go well.

Everyone is trying to find the next Josh Allen who went from terrible to elite but that is an anomaly. 9/10 if he’s bad to start and is still bad in year 2 and for fields YEAR 3?!?! He’s just bad! Enough /rant


Joe got his wr from college, and has had his struggles

Pat got with theee qb whisperer and good talent, pat had the skills Andy put it together

Dak is on a team with an shyt Ton of talent

Brock is with another qb whisperer with talent and he wasn’t a slouch

We did JF no favors and maybe he needs a new start, and maybe he not it, but i refuse to say objectively he was in a position to thrive when the oc decides to do back to back screens in the shadow of our goal
 

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Joe got his wr from college, and has had his struggles

Pat got with theee qb whisperer and good talent, pat had the skills Andy put it together

Dak is on a team with an shyt Ton of talent

Brock is with another qb whisperer with talent and he wasn’t a slouch

We did JF no favors and maybe he needs a new start, and maybe he not it, but i refuse to say objectively he was in a position to thrive when the oc decides to do back to back screens in the shadow of our goal

That don’t even matter bruh. Every failed QB has an excuse. It does not matter. Special ones—-or at least the ones that hit—-plow through it

And actually, nah that’s BS that he wasn’t/isn’t in position to thrive. If Justin fields was playing good you could easily point to him as one of those good examples: Got him a #1 WR DJ Moore. He has Darnell Mooney. He has Cole Kmet. They spent money on the defense (#1 run D) Jaylon Johnson playing at a pro bowl level.…and then added Montez sweat :ufdup:

Also CJ Stroud completely blows the excuses out the water. Terrible franchise. Defensive head coach. Mid RBs. A 3rd round 5’8 rookie as his #1. Also Nico a WR who no one else could do anything with but is now thriving as his #2. Plowed right thru the ready made excuses and he elite.

Also a very telling lil nugget that people may not realize: how could fields hit Mooney as a decent #1 option but he can’t do shyt as a #2? It’s bc Fields can’t see the entire field. He can hit DJ his #1 read , but he can’t hit nobody else unless it’s his safety blanket Kmet. Good QBs don’t have that problem. Even Sam Howell doesn’t have that problem

Fields is ass. No excuses
 

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That don’t even matter bruh. Every failed QB has an excuse. It does not matter. Special ones—-or at least the ones that hit—-plow through it

And actually, nah that’s BS that he wasn’t/isn’t in position to thrive. If Justin fields was playing good you could easily point to him as one of those good examples: Got him a #1 WR DJ Moore. He has Darnell Mooney. He has Cole Kmet. They spent money on the defense (#1 run D) Jaylon Johnson playing at a pro bowl level.…and then added Montez sweat :ufdup:

Also CJ Stroud completely blows the excuses out the water. Terrible franchise. Defensive head coach. Mid RBs. A 3rd round 5’8 rookie as his #1. Also Nico a WR who no one else could do anything with but is now thriving as his #2. Plowed right thru the ready made excuses and he elite.

Also a very telling lil nugget that people may not realize: how could fields hit Mooney as a decent #1 option but he can’t do shyt as a #2? It’s bc Fields can’t see the entire field. He can hit DJ his #1 read , but he can’t hit nobody else unless it’s his safety blanket Kmet. Good QBs don’t have that problem. Even Sam Howell doesn’t have that problem

Fields is ass. No excuses


Can’t compare the two, but if you want to go that route fields did more at osu than stroud, but you feel the way you do, cool i disagree
 

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Different coaching and schemes and talent

And is exactly my point when you compared the two, they not in similar situations

That dont fly for me. Too much of a gulf to chalk it up to different coaching and scheme. Could Daniel Jones be cj stroud if he was in a different system? Could Zach Wilson? Ok then. That’s disrespectful to CJ.

ALSO…OCs don’t implement certain schemes for certain QBs bc the QB can’t run it.
 

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First time watching Amazon’s pre game show, and this production A1. The HDR hits; I like how TNF does the cuts of local sports radio hosts, which ultimately segways to the players running out the smoke.
 
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