Random NBA Observations 2017 - 2018

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

nikka you the one who stans all 32 teams

Stay out of this. You don't know what I'm referring to. Don't think I haven't seen you on my dikk in other threads either.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Kyrie had a good game in Dallas.

Without a Marcus Smart three and that last defensive stop in regulation, they lose against a terrible team, but it was still a good game.

And Kyrie has been playing good defense this year. I've repeated that every time this situation has come up.

But Boston's success has been built around defense, and Kyrie is NOT driving their defense. That is abundantly clear. And every time I bring that up, you deflect to other shyt without dealing with the root claim. The root claim is that Kyrie is not driving Boston's defensive success.

* Stevens subs Kyrie out of the game in late-game defensive situations

* Stevens is comfortable with everyone but Kyrie switching everything, so he instituted that double-switch to protect Kyrie

* Smart is clearly the more elite perimeter defender than Kyrie

* Kyrie's effectiveness on both ends crashes when Horford isn't in the game

* The Celtics won two straight without Kyrie and went on an 18-0 run against the Warriors with Kyrie on the bench

That's a lot of evidence.

I'm not saying that Kyrie isn't playing well on both ends. I've praised him for that since the beginning of the season. But half the reason he's playing well is that he's become a great cog in an incredible machine. His impact hasn't looked like an MVP impact so far, it's looked like a "damn, Stevens is a fukking shoe-in for COY" impact.

Damn, my G! This ONE game done this nikka write a damn essay.
So if you If someone has to be taken out in late game situations on d, their defense "crashes" when horford isn't in the game (a big, athletic rim-protector) and the celtics can't switch with them in then....

you ARE saying he isn't playing well on the defensive end..shyt the sentences above prove that LOL.
Of course Smart is the better defender who has said otherwise??? that his top priority.
If you are praising him then I must be new to this type of praise. Double talking ass nikka

That's what @The Dankster does best. He's just keeping up appearances to push his pro-LeBron bullshyt, because he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about Kyrie all along. He has to give him backhanded praise else all the foundation to his arguments over the years (re: Kyrie/LeBron) will fall to the ground.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I made a thread that got thrown in the bushes, accumulated a bunch of negs and even got a low quality post warning for..

Saying OKC should've kept Kanter and Sabonis.

PG may not go to the Lakers but he damn sure ain't staying on OKC. Melo is.. Melo. Westbrook had a good thing going last year.

 

[Big Boss]

Kyrie

 

[VegetasHairline]

Play Zach Randolph and Kosta Koufos together in 2017, brehs.

 

[raidersreceiver]

@raidersreceiver you seeing this shyt from meyers leonard Unreal so far


@Flight come get your boy Ben Mclamore....He's getting abused in this game

Nah i was working, only saw like the last 4 mins of the 4th quarter. What happened

 

[DarrynCobretti]

 

[Recca Gatsby]

I come through in somethin' real foooooliiiiish
And they liiiiike, boy you a fool with it
And he liiiiike, boy you a fool with it
And she liiiiiike, boy you a fool with it

 

[CarltonJunior]

And last year IT was the "King of the 4th".

Clearly Stevens knows what he's doing.

 

[VegetasHairline]

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Raymond Felton is a colostomy bag with Hobbit legs

 

[Skooby]

@Skooby ya won this game on defense and rebounding.

Vonleh was the best player on the court

We need nights like this out of him. If Vonleh and Napier keep this up, we're going to be a tough out.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And last year IT was the "King of the 4th".

Clearly Stevens knows what he's doing.

Kyrie's been arguably the best clutch performer since his rookie season. Those type of #s aren't anything new. Nevermind the fact that Kyrie's creating his own shyt most of the time, they're not plays that Stevens has drawn up. Why can't y'all dudes just give Kyrie his due credit instead of trying to attach it someone else? Just like LeBron was credited for Kyrie's success in Cleveland, Stevens is the one who gets all the credit now.

Before LeBron returned to Cleveland -

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerCl...&sortOrder=DES&Season=2011-12&PerMode=PerGame

2011/2012 - Irving was #6 in the league at 3.7 points per game at 54 FG%, putting it next to the rest of the top clutch scorers:

#1 Durant - 39%
#2 Johnson - 45%
#3 Westbrook - 42%
#4 Paul - 42%
#5 Carmelo - 37%
#7 Terry - 49%
#8 Bryant - 36%
#9 LeBron - 45%
#10 Bargnani - 40%

Nobody in the top 10 came close to the efficiency that Kyrie showed in the clutch in 11/12. Go on and marinate on that for a minute.

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerCl...&sortOrder=DES&Season=2012-13&PerMode=PerGame

2012/2013 - Irving #3 in the league at 4.1 points per game at 46 FG%, putting it next to the rest of the top clutch scorers:

#1 Paul - 49%
#2 Durant - 39%
#4 Bryant - 42%
#5 James - 44%
#6 Parker - 47%
#7 Monta - 41%
#8 Harden - 40%
#9 Pierce - 34%
#10 Garnett - 41%

CP3 was the only one that had a higher PPC + % and Parker had a higher FG% by only 1 percent but scored a near full point less in the clutch.

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerCl...&sortOrder=DES&Season=2013-14&PerMode=PerGame

2013/2014 -

#1 Irving - 4.7 points at 37%
#2 Harden - 4.6 points at 40%
#3 Paul - 3.7 points at 40%
#4 Curry - 3.7 points at 40%
#5 MCW - 3.6 points at 47%
#6 Wall - 3.6 points at 38%
#7 Turner - 3.5 points at 41%
#8 Lillard - 3.4 points at 46%
#9 LeBron - 3.3 points at 38%
#10 Durant - 3.2 points at 26%

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I used the on/off stat showing Kyrie's struggles without Horford (100 min sample showing a 32-point swing AIN'T "minute" any more than any 15-game stat is) AND the Celtics' performance in the two games w/out Kyrie AND the 18-0 run without Kyrie against the Warriors that God gifted me after I already started showing you up. Three independent witnesses.

Except 95 minutes is a minute sample size when you look at TWO players on/off the court, because it's void of all lineup and situational context. Nevermind the fact that those numbers don't show when Horford's on the court, and Kyrie isn't. There are multiple instances where neither Horford nor Kyrie are actively involved in a play, which affects those numbers (why do I need to keep repeating to you that those numbers aren't individualized, but indicative of the lineups they're involved in?) - overlay that with those minutes being in certain increments, with different lineups, teams going on runs at different times, the variance of 3-pt shooting, and you run into a lot of noise. Those numbers can change drastically from game-to-game, but gon'head and keep using them in a dishonest manner, it's what you do best.

You use stats as a crutch because it's easy for you to bullshyt your way through discussions (posters are fooled by the generic numbers you post) because you're not watching the games, while trying to highlight brief moments that folk can identify (Celtics going on a run against the Warriors, without Kyrie); failing to weigh into account that the game itself is based on runs, which is one of the main reasons why you can't use on/off court numbers for TWO players over a small sample size to push your agenda.

I figured your shyt out a long time ago. Stop bullshytting around me, it's not gonna work.

No one should ever be saying that as long as this exists.

ESPN: "Allen initially aggravated the left hamstring midway through the Grizzlies' win Saturday in Game 3"

Fox Sports: "Joerger says Allen re-aggravated the injury in Game 3"

NBA.com: "Coach Dave Joerger said Allen re-aggravated the injury in Game 3"

You singled out ONE game where you said he "hurt" himself, when he'd actually been re-aggravating it all throughout the postseason. Like I've said many a time, the game in that series where he actually hurt himself was in Game 4 -

He was re-aggravating all throughout the playoffs - not just in Game 3 but in the games prior in that series and in the first round. If you had been actually watching the Grizzlies play, you would've known this. He was basically day-to-day for most games in the playoffs. I never said he didn't re-aggravate it in G3. I said he was 'hurt'/injured in Game 4 (where his injury actually ruled him out of the game). Game 4 marked when he actually got hurt, to the point he could no longer play on it -

After returning for Game 6 Friday night and having a very minimal impact in the opening half, Ramona Shelburne of ESPN passed along word that Allen would not return for the second half of the game.

Allen, 33, was limited to 16 minutes in Memphis' Game 4 101-84 loss after appearing to tweak his hamstring in the third quarter. He finished with four points and five rebounds. For the series, Allen is averaging nine points and 4.5 rebounds a game, including a 15-point performance in Game 1.

This is before the T'Blazers series -


If you're going to say he was "hurt" in Game 3 you might as well say he was hurt all throughout the playoffs. When you bring up a player actually getting hurt that has a lingering injury, it's usually in reference to them coming out of the game and staying out - that only happened in G4 of that series.

This is where you get yourself into troubling because you talk about shyt you have little-to-no knowledge of. You're wrong on this - do NOT bring it up again.

Tony Allen took to Twitter on Monday to give fans a video peek at how hard he’s working to return from a left hamstring strain.

However, the Grizzlies’ veteran swingman will sit out at least another week with the injury and his return to action before the playoffs begin seems questionable.

“I’m trying to do all I can do to get healthy,” Allen said Monday after missing the past four games. “If I was 100 percent I’d be playing. I feel bad that I can’t go out there. I feel like I’m energy. I’m a spark plug. My enthusiasm plays a role into us being successful. It hurts my heart not to be out there. I’m frustrated because the injury comes at a bad time because I felt like I was in a good rhythm. It’s a minor setback for major comeback.”

I love how you go from "all in your head" to "because posters" with the smoothness. You realize those are contradictory, right?

The false image of yourself is all in your head because you get gassed up by posters dapping/repping you, as if it's some indication of you being right, and not an indication of you posting shyt that fits their agenda. @LV Koopa just admitted so in this very thread.

My favorite was where the Celtics went on a 18-0 run to get back in the game against the Warriors, entirely without Kyrie, AFTER I made that post.

Like God was giving me a re-up to drive the point home further. And you just ignored that shyt like it didn't happen.

You mean a run where the Warriors were missing open shots - you're going to use ONE run during ONE game where the opposition to was off to push your agenda?

Curry shot 0% on wide open shots (defender 6ft-plus)
Green shot 25% on wide open shots (defender 6ft-plus)
Klay shot 37% on wide open shots (defender 6ft-plus)

Durant shot 33% on open shots (defender 4-6ft)
Thompson shot 25% on open shots (defender 4-6ft)
Draymond shot 0% on open shots (defender 4-6ft)

The Warriors as a team shot 38% on 21 open shots, and shot 36% on 19 wide-open shots in that game.

But it's Stevens' schemes, Smart's elite perimeter defense, Tatum's length, and Horford's ability to switch everything that is driving this defense.

fukk it, EVERYONE's ability to switch everything.

Everyone, that is, except Kyrie.

Well, you'd be wrong, since Kyrie has switched on a # of different positions all throughout the season - he just did it in this Dallas game, specifically down the stretch: Dirk (forced a turnover), Barnes and Matthews (forcing errant passes and tough, contested shots). You're souping your argument down to Kyrie not being as good as Smart, defensively (who's the best guard perimeter defender in the league) - as if that's supposed to take away from how good he's been on the defensive end this season.

How funny you went from someone who believed Kyrie was a horrible defender and mainly responsible for the Cavs' defensive woes, to trying to argue that while he's been good on defense, he's not as good as the best guard defender in the league.

I don't see how you can watch these games and say, "Kyrie is driving the Celtics' success on defense".

Point to where I said this or even insinuated as such - you're using quotation marks so clearly you must have evidence of me saying this. I know when you're losing the argument that you have to resort to straw man bullshyt where you try to scale back a player's contributions at the other end of the spectrum from where you were originally arguing from.

Supposed to be MVP and an elite defender yet they taking him out of the game on damn defensive substitutions in crunch time.

Kyrie's NOT an elite defender, there you go again with the straw man nonsense. If they need a defensive stop and/or rebound they go with Smart, who is once again the best guard defender in the league, plus they don't want Kyrie picking up unnecessary fouls that they can avoid, as well as conserving his energy for offense.

You are really quite pathetic that you have to single out ONE possession in that game (I bet you didn't even watch that game and were just following the thread and picked up a negative post about Kyrie that you could latch onto - I'm almost certain you weren't watching the game because it sounds like you are completely unaware of all the great defensive plays Kyrie made in that game), as reason for him not being in the MVP discussion; a game where he had 47 points on 22 shots, and made a # of great plays on BOTH ends.

Why bring up ONE possession to downplay his game? What would you be saying if LeBron scored 47 points on the same efficiency, made a # of great plays on both ends and yet someone brought up ONE possession to downplay his performance?



There's nothing worse than a hypocritical, hating ass nikka.

Here's some stats for you to show how he performs in "crunch time" -

 

[Llcoolbay]

Anthony Davis be putting up 30+/10+ with no effort.

He gets no press nowadays when he basically cant be checked at all on the court.

Send my dude to Cavs so he can put up some 30/20 in the playoffs and make people remember how good he is