Random NBA Observations 2017 - 2018

GilSho

Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
14,756
Reputation
2,261
Daps
94,051
Y'all gotta make up your minds already. Would a 2nd ballhandler be redundant alongside a Superstar with that skill or is it a necessary?
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,411
Reputation
15,459
Daps
246,392
Y'all gotta make up your minds already. Would a 2nd ballhandler be redundant alongside a Superstar with that skill or is it a necessary?

Multiple ballhandlers is NEVER a bad thing and a necessity assuming some of them can play off-ball, especially for offensive anchors who can't shoot.
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
85,722
Reputation
9,512
Daps
231,979
Yall are crazy as hell.

There are a ton of Brogdon 3 and D types and this upcoming draft.

Even Bron needs that other half court creator and we saw that BS Ben did last night.
Nobody is suggesting that Brogdon is the better overall player, just that what Bledsoe offers doesn't significantly outweigh what Brogdon brings to the team.
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,411
Reputation
15,459
Daps
246,392
Nobody is suggesting that Brogon is the better overall player, just that what Bledsoe offers doesn't significantly outweigh what Brogdon brings to the team.

I don't look at it like that, though.

Its easier to replace what Brodgon does via the draft/FA than what Bledsoe would bring.

Its really hard to hit on half court creators in the draft/FA than 3 + D.
 

Marc Spector

the 4'11 Cuban
Joined
Aug 7, 2014
Messages
13,668
Reputation
3,803
Daps
52,722
Reppin
The Milky Way
why the fukk has no one hired Sam Hinkie yet?

The Suns should have hired him yesterday. Unless they show that they have some sort of plan in motion, they cannot bet on Devon Booker staying.

Especially if they fukk up this Eric Bledsoe situation (either by publicly feuding with him or trading him someplace equally terrible).
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
85,722
Reputation
9,512
Daps
231,979
I don't look at it like that, though.

Its easier to replace what Brodgon does via the draft/FA than what Bledsoe would bring.

Its really hard to hit on half court creators in the draft/FA than 3 + D.
Even if that were to be true, that's largely negated by the specific roster they would need to put around a Giannis/Bledsoe duo. Basically, you're taking a step forward with trading a type of player which is easier to find, with one who isn't - but taking a step (or even more) back with the type of players you'd need to surround them with, and the limited lineups you can use when they're both on the floor.

Bledsoe's not worth it. I don't think it's the wrong move, it's just a sideways one. They fix one problem, but create another problem.
 

Flight

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
20,263
Reputation
1,695
Daps
51,751
Reppin
KC
why the fukk has no one hired Sam Hinkie yet?

The Suns should have hired him yesterday. Unless they show that they have some sort of plan in motion, they cannot bet on Devon Booker staying.

Especially if they fukk up this Eric Bledsoe situation (either by publicly feuding with him or trading him someplace equally terrible).

They have 8-9 years of control over Booker pretty much and he’s been open up until this point about wanting to be a Sun for life.

They’re gonna be okay..just move bledsoe and play the young guys.
 

CarltonJunior

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Feb 21, 2014
Messages
47,823
Reputation
5,710
Daps
132,723
Reppin
Duval County
Yall are crazy as hell.

There are a ton of Brogdon 3 and D types and this upcoming draft.

Even Bron needs that other half court creator and we saw that BS Ben did last night.

But Bron didn't need a Bledsoe. He needed a half court creator that also creates for himself without needing a ridiculous amount of space, Bledsoe is scoring and creating off PnRs that Giannis is not going ton be in the majority of, and Giannis will be forced to stand in a corner and watch without contributing if so. That's how you end up with a my turn, your turn offense. The type of half court creator Giannis needs will have to have a reliable J, especially off pullups.

I could be wrong though :manny:
 

EA

A Pound & A Prayer
Joined
Jun 22, 2013
Messages
11,070
Reputation
2,676
Daps
40,961
Reppin
London, UK
Considering the fact that Bledsoe’s knees are ticking timebombs and his game is dependent on his athleticism, I wouldn’t bother going for him if I were the Bucks. As it’s been said in here, the Bucks needs spacing and Jabari is still due to come back so he could still be the 2nd option that they need. Giving up Brogdon doesn’t seem like a good move right now.
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,411
Reputation
15,459
Daps
246,392
Even if that were to be true, that's largely negated by the specific roster they would need to put around a Giannis/Bledsoe duo. Basically, you're taking a step forward with trading a type of player which is easier to find, with one who isn't - but taking a step (or even more) back with the type of players you'd need to surround them with, and the limited lineups you can use when they're both on the floor.

Bledsoe's not worth it. I don't think it's the wrong move, it's just a sideways one. They fix one problem, but create another problem.

This is essentially the...

Kyrie/Bron
Wade/Bron
Fultz/Simmons

arguments but I think in the case of Bron/Giannis, they are so good that you're overemphasizing the lack of roster flexibility it'd create.

But Bron didn't need a Bledsoe. He needed a half court creator that also creates for himself without needing a ridiculous amount of space, Bledsoe is scoring and creating off PnRs that Giannis is not going ton be in the majority of, and Giannis will be forced to stand in a corner and watch without contributing if so. That's how you end up with a my turn, your turn offense. The type of half court creator Giannis needs will have to have a reliable J, especially off pullups.

I could be wrong though :manny:

Why can't they run 1-4 PnR all day?

I agree that Bledsoe isn't the utmost ideal ISO/PnR guy you want but we can sit here and dream all day waiting for the Bucks to add one because they don't grow on trees.
 

Remote

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Aug 29, 2013
Messages
81,457
Reputation
24,999
Daps
368,297
Robert Covington has hit 17 threes in 5 games at a .486 clip

200w.gif


@Malta
 

CarltonJunior

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Feb 21, 2014
Messages
47,823
Reputation
5,710
Daps
132,723
Reppin
Duval County
This is essentially the...

Kyrie/Bron
Wade/Bron
Fultz/Simmons

arguments but I think in the case of Bron/Giannis, they are so good that you're overemphasizing the lack of roster flexibility it'd create.



Why can't they run 1-4 PnR all day?

I agree that Bledsoe isn't the utmost ideal ISO/PnR guy you want but we can sit here and dream all day waiting for the Bucks to add one because they don't grow on trees.

I think the 1-4 PnR wouldn't be the best use of Giannis' talent, although it WOULD be the best use of Bledsoe's talent. It could work, but I just think there's a better piece to be had. If they package Brogdon/Jabari together I think they can find that extra star piece
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,411
Reputation
15,459
Daps
246,392
I think the 1-4 PnR wouldn't be the best use of Giannis' talent, although it WOULD be the best use of Bledsoe's talent. It could work, but I just think there's a better piece to be had. If they package Brogdon/Jabari together I think they can find that extra star piece

Even Bron had to sacrifice his best use for the greater good :ld:

Who do you think Brodgon/Jabari could net? Seems like slim pickings IMO.
 
Top