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Why did Reggie Jackson only play 17 minutes tonight? :ohhh:

He burns clock and doesn't move the ball, I can't seem them holding onto him past the summer, dude is just the wrong player for what they need from a PG.

If Ish could make threes at like 35% he'd be starting by now.
 

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Why did Reggie Jackson only play 17 minutes tonight? :ohhh:


Because the offense runs better with Ish.

If Reggie isn't scoring consistently he's just dribbling the air out of the rock where as Ish pushes the pace, gets his team easy baskets, just a better pure PG despite his flaws. Literally EVERYONE sees it. I was watching the Raptors Telecast and the announcer even said it as Reggie was on the floor. They put Ish back in and made a run.
 

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He burns clock and doesn't move the ball, I can't seem them holding onto him past the summer, dude is just the wrong player for what they need from a PG.

If Ish could make threes at like 35% he'd be starting by now.

Guy is learning the hard way that he was always just a role player and the thunder had it right. :mjpls:
 
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Just saw non shooting ishe smith outplay Kyle Lowry down the stretch for a big road win. Just made me think of how silly the "Lowry>>>Kidd" claim is.
I. Ish Smith outplayed Chris Paul earlier in the season - not just down the stretch, but for the entire game. He completely shytted on him.
II. Kidd was outplayed during his prime by the likes of: Snow, Lue (on two different teams). Tinsley, McKie, Best, Vaughn, A.Carter, McInnis, Ford, A.Williams, D.Jones and a one-foot-in-the-grave Van Exel. And that's just off the top.
III. Lowry is on pace for having a greater season than Kidd ever did - by the length of all the fat folds your behemothic CAC whale wife had before the Panniculectomy.
IV. Stop posting. Now. And forever.

V. :camby:
 

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He burns clock and doesn't move the ball, I can't seem them holding onto him past the summer, dude is just the wrong player for what they need from a PG.

If Ish could make threes at like 35% he'd be starting by now.

He's signed for 3 more years after this season. :dead:

Not many teams need a point guard, especially one like him, they might find it hard to move him.
 

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He burns clock and doesn't move the ball, I can't seem them holding onto him past the summer, dude is just the wrong player for what they need from a PG.

If Ish could make threes at like 35% he'd be starting by now.

He's signed for 3 more years after this season. :dead:

Not many teams need a point guard, especially one like him, they might find it hard to move him.
 

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I. Ish Smith outplayed Chris Paul earlier in the season - not just down the stretch, but for the entire game. He completely shytted on him.
II. Kidd was outplayed during his prime by the likes of: Snow, Lue (on two different teams). Tinsley, McKie, Best, Vaughn, A.Carter, McInnis, Ford, A.Williams, D.Jones and a one-foot-in-the-grave Van Exel. And that's just off the top.
III. Lowry is on pace for having a greater season than Kidd ever did - by the length of all the fat folds your behemothic CAC whale wife had before the Panniculectomy.
IV. Stop posting. Now. And forever.

V. :camby:
As usual the point flew over your empty ass head. I wasn't saying that Ishe is better than Lowry or that Kidd never got outplayed by lesser players. The point was that even tho Ishe illustrates that non shooting pass-first point guards can still be really effective in today's league. There's this silly line of thinking that you and your buddy @Malta push saying that shoot-first point guards are better than pass first point guards, and that pass first point guards don't work in today's league. Even tho he's a marginal NBA player Ishe disproves that. Reggie Jackson is a talented shoot-first point guard while Ishe can't shoot, but the Pistons would be a better team with Ishe starting over him. Let me repeat again so you don't miss the point dummy, pass first point guards can be really effective in this league.
 

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As usual the point flew over your empty ass head. I wasn't saying that Ishe is better than Lowry or that Kidd never got outplayed by lesser players. The point was that even tho Ishe illustrates that non shooting pass-first point guards can still be really effective in today's league. There's this silly line of thinking that you and your buddy @Malta push saying that shoot-first point guards are better than pass first point guards, and that pass first point guards don't work in today's league. Even tho he's a marginal NBA player Ishe disproves that. Reggie Jackson is a talented shoot-first point guard while Ishe can't shoot, but the Pistons would be a better team with Ishe starting over him. Let me repeat again so you don't miss the point dummy, pass first point guards can be really effective in this league.

Can you name more examples of non shooting pass first PG's that are starters today who are still really effective?
 
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As usual the point flew over your empty ass head. I wasn't saying that Ishe is better than Lowry or that Kidd never got outplayed by lesser players. The point was that even tho Ishe illustrates that non shooting pass-first point guards can still be really effective in today's league. There's this silly line of thinking that you and your buddy @Malta push saying that shoot-first point guards are better than pass first point guards, and that pass first point guards don't work in today's league.
:dahell:

Ish Smith is not a "really effective" PG - there's a reason why he's been on 11 different teams in seven seasons, while only starting 25% of the games he's played in (most of which have been on loterry-bound teams). He's a solid backup who can temporary fill the void when the starter goes down, but never completely replace even just the good PGs: Kemba, Bledsoe, Dragic and Holiday etc etc. Much less replace the offensive impact of the likes of Curry, Westbrook, Lowry, Wall and I.T2.

I can't believe you'd even use Ish Smith as a reference, not only for being a "really effective" PG, but to use in argument for stating that somehow he negates the opinion of @Malta and I. Hypothetically, even if he were to be a "really effective" PG, he'd be an exception and not the rule. And it's never been about simply pass-first PGs - it's more about the PGs who can't score or shoot while dominating the ball. Anybody with half a brain can see that a player who has the ball in his hands the majority of the time and can't score/shoot efficiently ain't worth shyt. Regardless if you're a pass or shoot-first PG.
Even tho he's a marginal NBA player Ishe disproves that. Reggie Jackson is a talented shoot-first point guard while Ishe can't shoot, but the Pistons would be a better team with Ishe starting over him.
It's not about being a pass-first or shoot-first PG per say, it's about balancing when to score and when to pass. By rule, you're always going to be more of a threat if you look to score before you look to pass (that doesn't actually mean shooting the ball, it just means looking to). Half of Reggie's troubles is the fact he's a rockbrain who can't make the correct decisions with the ball on the regular and that he's been inefficient, not because he's a shoot-first PG. And while the Pistons would be better off at this current time with Ish as his replacement, it really isn't saying much since the majority of PGs in the league (starters and bench) would be a better option - score-first and pass-first.
 
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I can't think of any, Ishe doesn't even start. What's your point,
So you can't think of any more PGs (and Ish doesn't even start), and yet you can't see the point in somebody asking if you have any more examples of 'non-shooting, pass-first PGs' who are "really effective" to add to your argument of disproving the theory of @Malta and I?

:dead:

You're essentially bringing a butter knife to a gunfight. You might be more of a rockbrain than I took you for.
 
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