Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Roadie pipeher]

what the hell does this even mean?

continues to confirm the c00n-ish shyt he does.

 

[SchoolboyC]

and they only got into the playoffs last year because of injuries to every other team on the back end made late-season tanking a thing.

Celtics over achieved last season & had other teams injuries help them

How did they overachieve? What player(s) did they have that played far beyond their talent level?

 

[42 Monks]

How did they overachieve? What player(s) did they have that played far beyond their talent level?

Their entire front court overachieved.

And Indiana, Detroit, Miami, and Charlotte all had significant injuries to deal with that derailed their season. Brooklyn only made the playoffs because they were determined to do everything to keep ATL away from a lottery pick. Over paying guys, throwing big minutes to older guys, etc.

Boston isn't better than those 4 teams going into next year.

 

[42 Monks]

Milwaukee, Toronto & Boston over the Wizards

Milwaukee? Sure. Toronto and Boston though....

I think the Wizards regress too tbh. They still got one of the worst coaches in the league and no more Paul Pierce to keep them on track between huddles. When your season depends on Otto Porter stepping up, you're in trouble

 

[DIMES]

Rajon Rondo was one of the worst offensive players at his position last season. That's a fact. Can't shoot, scared to take contact on drives and get sent to the line where he shoots worse than Deandre Jordan, dribbles the air out of the basketball looking for an assist often turning it over in the process and isn't good enough defensively to make up for all his deficiencies. You can stan his rebounding as if he doesn't take advantage of his bigs who do all the work of boxing out, that isn't carrying a big impact on a game.

Tell me what you know about Darren Collision's game, serious doubts you even understand why he's a valuable player in this league. Don't go throwing insults if you don't understand who the fukk is even being discussed

U are basing rondo off a terrible situation last year

His career has shown what he is capable of and u should realize last year with the mavs was an anomaly.

Rondo is very good defender when motivated. He is only an average defender in game in reg season against trash teams and tends to risk it. Regularly leads tops the league in steal and rebounds by guards.

Yes Rondo can shoot update your 2k10 ass. He is an average shooter from mid range percentage wise. And he doesn't attempt many threes so his low % there doesn't affect the game much.

His ft numbers are not good but he makes up for with his game. He is an elite passer in the NBA, agrubably the best. Yeah nikka u mite need to learn a thing or 2 about the NBA before 2015

Collision outside of last year is a solid back up pg and a decent starter. He is very up and down.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Their entire front court overachieved.

And Indiana, Detroit, Miami, and Charlotte all had significant injuries to deal with that derailed their season. Brooklyn only made the playoffs because they were determined to do everything to keep ATL away from a lottery pick. Over paying guys, throwing big minutes to older guys, etc.

Boston isn't better than those 4 teams going into next year.

How did the entire frontcourt overachieve?

Bass averaged 11/5, his career averages are 9/5

Sullinger's numbers last year were practically identical to his ones the year before, nevermind the fact that he missed damn near two months with a foot injury. Same thing with Olynyk, there wasn't some dramatic difference between his play last season and the year before. Zeller is really the only one who had played much better than he had before and still in the end he only averaged 10/6 and he only played 20 minutes a game so it's not like he was carrying the team on his back

And it's not like the Celtics won 55 games, they didn't even finish with a winning record. I don't think they overachieved at all based on their performance, I think they performed to their talent level, it's just due to injuries and general incompetence the bottom of the East was god awful which pushed them into the playoffs. And they're well aware of this, it's why Stevens has said over and over that they were closer to being the 12th seed than they were to being the 4th.

 

[42 Monks]

U are basing rondo off a terrible situation last year

His career has shown what he is capable of and u should realize last year with the mavs was an anomaly.

Rondo is very good defender when motivated. He is only an average defender in game in reg season against trash teams and tends to risk it. Regularly leads tops the league in steal and rebounds by guards.

Yes Rondo can shoot update your 2k10 ass. He is an average shooter from mid range percentage wise. And he doesn't attempt many threes so his low % there doesn't affect the game much.

His ft numbers are not good but he makes up for with his game. He is an elite passer in the NBA, agrubably the best. Yeah nikka u mite need to learn a thing or 2 about the NBA before 2015

Collision outside of last year is a solid back up pg and a decent starter. He is very up and down.

His career has shown he is nothing without 3 hall of famers around him. For the past 3 years, he's made sure that Boston was one of the worst offensive teams in the league when he's on the court. Dallas was the #1 offensive team in the league before he got there - 'Terrible situation' is bullshyt.

And no, he's not a good a shooter. He's in the same category as Reggie Evans now.

But all players need fans I guess.

 

[42 Monks]

How did the entire frontcourt overachieve?

Bass averaged 11/5, his career averages are 9/5

Sullinger's numbers last year were practically identical to his ones the year before, nevermind the fact that he missed damn near two months with a foot injury. Same thing with Olynyk, there wasn't some dramatic difference between his play last season and the year before. Zeller is really the only one who had played much better than he had before and still in the end he only averaged 10/6

And it's not like the Celtics won 55 games, they didn't even finish with a winning record. I don't think they overachieved at all based on their performance, I think they performed to their talent level, it's just due to injuries and general incompetence the bottom of the East was god awful which pushed them into the playoffs.

They overachieved in that they weren't defensively exploited around the clock like they should've been.

I think we're saying the same thing a bit differently though.

 

[DoubleJ13]

How did they overachieve? What player(s) did they have that played far beyond their talent level?

Maybe overachieved is the wrong phrase for it but that team was built with a lottery pick in mind & got unfortunate with other teams falling.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Maybe overachieved is the wrong phrase for it but that team was built with a lottery pick in mind & got unfortunate with other teams falling.

I mean, they were still a fringe playoff team. It's not like they cruised to the postseason. Take away 2-3 wins and they're picking in the top 10, that's how small the gap was

 

[42 Monks]

Interview with Steve Clifford about MJ

On Jordan as an owner: Actually, I think we have terrific communication. I get asked that all the time. But, particularly, by other head coaches.

I don’t think there’s any way you can rate owners, but I’ll just give you an example. We talk on the phone. He’s great with me about letting me know what he sees because he’s watching all the games and obviously he has a great background and knowledge about the NBA.

One of the best stories I tell coaches is that they don’t understand the advantage of having him. Last year, we had lost seven in a row, played Golden State here on a Friday night, we were ahead early in the fourt, Steph (Curry) got going and they came back and beat us. We had put a lot into the game, the guys played well.

We went to Atlanta the next night and I think, in the third quarter, we were down, like, 38. So we come back the next morning and I’m here in the office watching film and I see it’s Michael (calling). And the conversation was short. He said, “Are you OK?” And I said, “Not really.” And he said, “Look, we’re getting better, there’s no way we were going to play well last night (after an emotional loss to Golden State). You’ve got to understand — I told my wife after the (Golden State) game, there’s no way we’re playing well tomorrow.’ Just keep working, be positive.” I don’t think there are many owners that would have the knowledge of basketball to view a situation like that.

I get that question all the time. To me, he’s been great.

Spoiler

blatant lies from steve clifford

 

[Easy-E]

When we sign Kendrick Perkins, though?


AD is overdue for a goon in the front court

 

[Easy-E]

Or RIP his ankles and knees. Let's hope not.

That means he can absorb contact more.

75% of his injuries been because of game to game contact taking a toll on him. I love it!

 

[Easy-E]

I'm in the best shape of my life.

Spent time with these guys in the offseason. Man we're like a family.

I do yoga now.

I changed my diet.

All the thousands of shots I took are gonna pay off.

Love the new additions. As soon as they told me they got (random bum) man it was like Christmas.

Last season was tough but we have a good future ahead. Can't wait to get out there.

Yeah I have (a new baby or random weird pet). Love it. Changed my perspective on a lot of things.

And many more. Check off which cliches you hear today

 

[Consumed]

U are basing rondo off a terrible situation last year

His career has shown what he is capable of and u should realize last year with the mavs was an anomaly.

Rondo is very good defender when motivated. He is only an average defender in game in reg season against trash teams and tends to risk it. Regularly leads tops the league in steal and rebounds by guards.

Yes Rondo can shoot update your 2k10 ass. He is an average shooter from mid range percentage wise. And he doesn't attempt many threes so his low % there doesn't affect the game much.

His ft numbers are not good but he makes up for with his game. He is an elite passer in the NBA, agrubably the best. Yeah nikka u mite need to learn a thing or 2 about the NBA before 2015

Collision outside of last year is a solid back up pg and a decent starter. He is very up and down.

No, I won't assume a terrible campaign is an anomaly for a 29 y/o that's missed 96 games combined in '13 and '14 because of a ACL tear and then went on to produce that abomination in '15. If you have to attach "when motivated" to a player's skill its a problem. He hasn't been that on a consistent basis in years and when all of his biggest stans thought he'd turn up for the postseason, that bytch quit on his team. Hasn't "leads tops the league" whatever the fukk that means in steals since 2011, and his rebounding is insanely overrated. How many times do you watch the man rip uncontested boards from his big men? Do you really think this masks his deficiencies? For the life of me I don't understand why Rondo gets argued over other players because of rebounding totals rather than actual traditional guard skills, like a fukking jumpshot, 1on1 scoring or not bricking free throws like a 7'2 center.

Rondo shot 31% from mid range on wide open attempts this past season. That's 8% below the league average for mid range jumpshots. He shot 39% from the free throw line and even in his best years he's been inexcusably bad from the line. His inability to be a threat from three does impact the game, defenses don't respect him and will happily help off him to double others on the team. He hurts the spacing of any team he plays for and whenever Boogie or Gay try to go 1on1 they'll be hurt by his presence on the floor.

Rondo is a very good passer, but his absurd turnover rate and ineffectiveness on drives (he is NOT the penetrator he once was) dulls his impact as a playmaker. Darren Collison will give you better penetration than him. He does not belong in the same category as a floor general with Chris Paul who turns the ball over at a much less frequent rate while retaining the same innate playmaking ability.

Not sure why you're excluding Collison's recent season, but the biggest difference between him with the Clips in '14 and Kings now is his role, not talent. Collision is one of the best mid range shooters in the league (47% on 179 attempts), gets to and finishes well at the basket and unlike Rondo invites contact where he gets to the line at a good rate (.335 ftr, compared to Rondo's abysmal .133) and actually hits his damn FT's. He was the best spot up shooter on the Kings last season converting 37% of his attempts behind the arc and provides efficient scoring as evidenced by a 57.6 TS% in each of the past two seasons, as compared to Rondo who's been among the most inefficient players in the game for years and is a big liability when he's not controlling the ball which will be a problem playing next to high usage ball dominant players like Rudy Gay and Demarcus Cousins. He's a good defensive player that'll actually commit to giving effort against "trash teams in the regular season" unlike Rondo who's apparently above trying against inferior competition as if that's a real copout. Not even LeBron can get away with that coasting excuse. The Kings will be a better team with Collision on the floor than Rondo because he compliments the team better and he's a flat out better player at this stage of the game. That stance isn't hard to understand if you take off the homer goggles. You aren't in a position here to be insulting other people's knowledge of the game.