R.A. the Rugged Man: Kanye is a Good Beat Maker, But He's Very Overrated

[jebuz]

Get a grip

remember when @WickedGames ran you out of the other kanye GOAT discog thread?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/no-post-2000s-artist-has-a-better-discog-than-kanye.400621

y'all couldnt even name ONE artist from ANY genre that had a better post-2000 catalog

this finna be part 2?

 

[I love Latina women]

R.A. the Rugged Man is on point. Everything R.A. said in this interview he was right about.

Ye is a good but he is overrated and he's become of the watered down era we in. I'm a fan of Ye's old shyt but NONE of his music fukks with ANY producer/rapper or mc's music from the the 90's. Ye has NEVER EVER been a great rapper. He's always been below average as a rapper to ME. I gave him a pass because he's a producer rapper but his delivery and flow have always been meh to me. But I let it ride because he's a producer rapper. And R.A. is right, Ye is a celebrity so of course everything Ye does now gets overrated times 10.

Ye has gotten over because in the mid 2000s when he finally got his time to shine most of the veterans had already fallen off and then none of the new acts were doing anything mind blowing so if left the door open for almost anything DECENT to be deemed "great" because the standards were lowered and the bench mark for greatness settled for "decent" or "good" because we had become so accustom to weak that shyt that when some halfway decent shyt comes along, we accepted it for "great" when in reality or the peak of Hip Hop in the 90's, it wouldn't have stood out among shyt like Brand Nubian, Wu, Mobb, Dre and Snoop, Tribe, etc etc

Production wise, he's not and NEVER has been on the level of RZA, Havoc, Pete Rock, Large Professor, Erick Sermon, Q-Tip, Easy Mo Bee, Dr. Dre, Premier, DJ Quik, DJ Muggs, J Dilla, Madlib, Timbaland, The Neptunes etc etc. He's nowhere near these nikkas' level.

Ye not fukking with Shock G, Scott Storch and The Alchemist either. Not even close

Oh yeah and another thing, this beat was nice. This beat is probably Ye's best beat honestly:

 

[SirBiatch]

remember when @WickedGames ran you out of the other kanye GOAT discog thread?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/no-post-2000s-artist-has-a-better-discog-than-kanye.400621

y'all couldnt even name ONE artist from ANY genre that had a better post-2000 catalog

this finna be part 2?

Y'all be bookmarking SirBiatch appearances in threads? Breh, I don't remember this shyt at all and frankly, I don't care enough to recollect. I probably stopped responding to WickedLames because his stannery got boring, just like it's getting with you Almost surprised you didn't deflect to ASAP Rocky in this thread

Anyway, later. Enough attention for today

 

[SirBiatch]

R.A. the Rugged Man is on point. Everything R.A. said in this interview he was right about.

Ye is a good but he is overrated and he's become of the watered down era we in. I'm a fan of Ye's old shyt but NONE of his music fukks with ANY producer/rapper or mc's music from the the 90's. Ye has NEVER EVER been a great rapper. He's always been below average as a rapper to ME. I gave him a pass because he's a producer rapper but his delivery and flow have always been meh to me. But I let it ride because he's a producer rapper. And R.A. is right, Ye is a celebrity so of course everything Ye does now gets overrated times 10.

Ye has gotten over because in the mid 2000s when he finally got his time to shine most of the veterans had already fallen off and then none of the new acts were doing anything mind blowing so if left the door open for almost anything DECENT to be deemed "great" because the standards were lowered and the bench mark for greatness settled for "decent" or "good" because we had become so accustom to weak that shyt that when some halfway decent shyt comes along, we accepted it for "great" when in reality or the peak of Hip Hop in the 90's, it wouldn't have stood out among shyt like Brand Nubian, Wu, Mobb, Dre and Snoop, Tribe, etc etc

Production wise, he's not and NEVER has been on the level of RZA, Havoc, Pete Rock, Large Professor, Erick Sermon, Q-Tip, Easy Mo Bee, Dr. Dre, Premier, DJ Quik, DJ Muggs, J Dilla, Madlib, Timbaland, The Neptunes etc etc. He's nowhere near these nikkas' level.

Ye not fukking with Shock G, Scott Storch and The Alchemist either. Not even close

Oh yeah and another thing, this beat was nice. This beat is probably Ye's best beat honestly:

fantastic post. Anyone who was around at that time would agree. That Alicia Keys record..... On the low, it did wonders for Ye's image. It was genuinely a fantastic record.

Knowing what we know about Ye now, you wonder: 'did Rhymefest produce that?'

 

[Boolean]

Ya'll personal emotions really show when its comes to Ye.

 

[I love Latina women]

fantastic post. Anyone who was around at that time would agree. That Alicia Keys record..... On the low, it did wonders for Ye's image. It was genuinely a fantastic record.

Knowing what we know about Ye now, you wonder: 'did Rhymefest produce that?'

Thanks, bruh. I appreciate that

Yeah, that record help stretch Ye's image as a producer. Definitely.

From what I know, Ye composed that record with Alicia and John Stephens aka John Legend (background vocals) and Harold Lilly -- songwriter. Alicia speaks on it here

 

[jebuz]

Ya'll personal emotions really show when its comes to Ye.

they get mad and put you on ignore

R.A been talkin about Ye for a minute. This cac mad or jealous or...?

 

[Hennessy&Enemies]

Oh, another washed up 'lyrical' rapper complaining about the current state of hiphop and how much better it was in the old days.

This shyt is getting boring. Did these dustheads really expect that rap music would remain stagnant and not evolve. Sure, they're 'lyrical', but to believe that things would remain stagnant shows a lot about their actual intelligence level

The music and beats have evolved - get over it.

 

[the cac mamba]

Oh yeah and another thing, this beat was nice. This beat is probably Ye's best beat honestly:

ever heard this

 

[I love Latina women]

ever heard this

Yeah, my brother in law put me onto this.

RIP Sean P!

 

[SirBiatch]

ever heard this

 

[jebuz]

ever heard this

dope remix. sean P was smooth af

 

[Ghpstface]

Kanye is a PRODUCER not a beatmaker. Beatmakers don't run the show for million dollar+ albums...they just make beats.

 

[Therht]

I respect R.A.'s opinion on a lot of stuff but not on the current state of lyricism tbh

Like moaning Trumps an a$$hole

No dummy the system just supports a$$holes these days that's the problem


Someone above said Ye slipped in after the greats fell off

Nah son

The game just changed

Lyricism got replaced by the Character (think 50, Cam, Jeezy, Wayne, Max B, Ross...)

Now we in the era where Emotion replaced the character (think Future, Thugger, Migos, Fetty Wap, Yachty...)

Kanye still the goat of the past 17 years cos he stays a character, stays emotional, with dope production and a little lyricism here and there

He also one of the greatest Songwriters in hip hop, period


Judging this new batch of 'rappers' on old school Lyricism 'values' is just

FOH

I'd much rather see R.A. talmbout Movies and Boxing tbh

Something he's not so strongly emotionally attached to

 

[The Ruler 09]

He's a dope producer if he produced the beats he's credited to have, some great work.

He's made some good music as a rapper, but nowhere enough quantity of quality to get into a realistic top 20 let alone top 10 so if people have him for example a top 5 then very overrated.