Quick thought on college professors

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I remember for Chem 101, my teacher was a Physics Graduate, who only loved talking about his research on quantum mechanic, but quite frankly sucked at teaching. Many people suffered.

That was my Discrete Math class but instead of talking, he actually made us do some of it. Basically just skipped the basics and went for the Grad/PhD level shyt. Many rages were induced. Barely passed that fukking atrocity.

I just spent the summer reading notes from a friend who took it at another school because a lot of it is vital to my major and future. fukking a$$hole c*nt prof.

 

[No1]

I remember for Chem 101, my professor was a Physics Graduate, who loved talking about his research on quantum mechanic, but quite frankly sucked, in regards to teaching. Many students suffered...

That's another thing fam. Some of the most brilliant professors are horrible teachers. I had some legendary professors in college that could teach and then I had some big names were entirely awkward and could not transfer their considerable intelligence to us. Mumbling, incoherent, goinng off on tangents, not following the readings, etc.

 

[Depreciating Asset]

Was just watching President Obama's Speech about college costs, and I never really thought about but...

Professors tend be amongst the most liberal minded demographics in the country. Is it just me, or is it the pinnacle of hypocrisy that they work for one of the most aggressively capitalist institutions in the country?

Are they just completely full of shyt, or am I missing something?

edit: You can rate threads now? I'ma give myself a 5 :smugdraper

edit 2: I cant rate my own thread Thats actually a good thing

You really think so?

JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
Nike
Every oil company
Bain
Enron
The entire prison industry
NRA
Haliburton
Altria (formerly Philip Morris)

 

[Shogun]

You really think so?
JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
Nike
Every oil company
Bain
Enron
The entire prison industry
NRA
Haliburton
Altria (formerly Philip Morris)

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images...economix-02costs/economix-02costs-blog480.jpg

 

[Depreciating Asset]

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Could you clarify then what you mean by aggressively capitalist institution? Isn't it more aggressively capitalist to raise prices for something essential to survival like health care or (almost essential) like gasoline? Or more aggressively capitalist to handsomely profit from death (i.e. Haliburton or the NRA)?

Ultimately college isn't essential. The price for college keeps rising because people keep buying it. If a substantial amount of people opted out, the price would drop. Millions of people who haven't gone to college are living happy, productive lives feeding their families with a roof over their heads.

You have to pick your poison in this world until a better system comes along. We all gotta eat. I'd have a clearer conscious working as a college professor than work for any of the organizations I named. But that's just me.

 

[Trip]

Could you clarify then what you mean by aggressively capitalist institution? Isn't it more aggressively capitalist to raise prices for something essential to survival like health care or (almost essential) like gasoline? Or more aggressively capitalist to handsomely profit from death (i.e. Haliburton or the NRA)?

Ultimately college isn't essential. The price for college keeps rising because people keep buying it. If a substantial amount of people opted out, the price would drop. Millions of people who haven't gone to college are living happy, productive lives feeding their families with a roof over their heads.

You have to pick your poison in this world until a better system comes along. We all gotta eat. I'd have a clearer conscious working as a college professor than work for any of the organizations I named. But that's just me.

Take the fed out of the loan business and college tuition drops instantaneously.

 

[Depreciating Asset]

Take the fed out of the loan business and college tuition drops instantaneously.

No doubt. Bubble will probably burst in a decade or so given that only 40% of people are paying back those loans. Those losses are bound to hit balance sheets eventually and then we are likely to see a repeat of 2007.

 

[Trip]

No doubt. Bubble will probably burst in a decade or so given that only 40% of people are paying back those loans. Those losses are bound to hit balance sheets eventually and then we are likely to see a repeat of 2007.

Obama seems more concerned about fixing outcomes than actually diving into the root cause here.

 

[Odyssey]

Was just watching President Obama's Speech about college costs, and I never really thought about but...

Professors tend be amongst the most liberal minded demographics in the country. Is it just me, or is it the pinnacle of hypocrisy that they work for one of the most aggressively capitalist institutions in the country?

Are they just completely full of shyt, or am I missing something?

edit: You can rate threads now? I'ma give myself a 5 :smugdraper

edit 2: I cant rate my own thread Thats actually a good thing

Bingo.

 

[Shogun]

Could you clarify then what you mean by aggressively capitalist institution? Isn't it more aggressively capitalist to raise prices for something essential to survival like health care or (almost essential) like gasoline? Or more aggressively capitalist to handsomely profit from death (i.e. Haliburton or the NRA)?

Ultimately college isn't essential. The price for college keeps rising because people keep buying it. If a substantial amount of people opted out, the price would drop. Millions of people who haven't gone to college are living happy, productive lives feeding their families with a roof over their heads.

You have to pick your poison in this world until a better system comes along. We all gotta eat. I'd have a clearer conscious working as a college professor than work for any of the organizations I named. But that's just me.

Breh, of course there's more cutthroat corporations out there. American Universities are one of them. You naming oil companies and shyt isn't proving anything.

 

[Serious]

Segment kind of has me questioning Higher Learning within itself:

While this isn't new information too me, it still humbles me every time. If professors are barely making 20-30k a year then why is tuition sohh high. Seems like Instructors salaries would be somewhat of a priority...

 

[NZA]

what is the criteria for aggressive capitalism among colleges?

 

[Wild self]

College administrators are bigger hypocrites...

Pretty much. They jack up the tuition and they talk about the college degree worth not decreasing. Deception ridden scumbags

 

[TrueEpic08]

Segment kind of has me questioning Higher Learning within itself:

While this isn't new information too me, it still humbles me every time. If professors are barely making 20-30k a year then why is tuition sohh high. Seems like Instructors salaries would be somewhat of a priority...

Because, according to administrations, that money has to go to other, vitally important projects. Athletics, construction, administration, etc. There's also the issue of funding (culled from tuition costs due to lower higher education funding from State governments; what they do with it is another question) and governmental policies as it relates to financial aid (as others have said, the relationship between federal aid and tuition is a huge factor in rising costs).

As someone who's currently working as an instructor at a state university, the situation is a sad reflection of the labor situation in the quote-unquote "real world." Most of the tenure track professors are totally oblivious (or at least play oblivious) to the adjuncting problem, adjuncts themselves barely exist within the departments (you'll be hard up to spot a tenure track professor speaking with an adjunct, even in the act of exchanging pleasantries), and the TAs/Grad Students are essentially infantalized young adults, beholden to the whims of professors and administration. The situation is structured to make sure that adjuncts are and remain the Ph. D. holding equivalent of migrant workers and that everyone in the situation has no incentive to do anything about it. Depending on where you go to grad school, the whole point of certain programs may be to create new pools of potential adjuncts making 20K a year to run themselves ragged.

Seeing as there is that pool, however (especially in my field of study), actually paying adjuncts from the billions of dollars reaped from rising tuition costs is surplus to requirements. That might actually improve the quality of teaching in certain subject areas, and universities don't quite care about that. Those costs need to go to a random (more than likely athletic) project instead.

 

[Serious]

Hate to use a @DEAD7 reference here but the excessive money poured into college athletics while paying certain factions of the faulty pennies is like a prime example of the market working itself out.

Sure in a utopia college professor adjunct or full time would be a respectable wage for their hard work, skill and knowledge;but obviously administrations realize that they can easily capitalize off steady enrollment and raising tuition fees if they have a reasonably successful football or basketball program. Despite how unprepared they ultimately send the generation of adults into the real world. It's a complete travesty and breakdown, especially with the surplus of athletes who go through college come out barely sounding like they can spell their name or even write cohesive essay. But worst of all are the students who innocently get screwed out of a ton of money for a sub par education and the adjunct faulty particularly living off of minimum wage with no benefits...