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They're unique, and while stable is an appropriate word (not in a good way), they're essentially a mafia state that controls every aspect of life and could give a shyt about its citizen and humanity as a whole.

They teach shyt like the Kim family is when life on earth started and that the first time Kim Jong Un played golf, each hole he got a hole in one on and when he was born, lighting struck. Super weird shyt like that.
 

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China used to distribute millions of rifles, grenades and mortars to rural villages so they could form guerillas bands if Soviet invade them. The number is even higher if you count the weapons that got looted from armories by the Red Guards during Cultural Revolution. But even after Tiananmen they never rise against CCP. Instead they got used to settle personal scores like when several villages fighting each other with rifles and artilleries over land disputes. PLA had to come and disarm the warring parties and China introduced stricter firearm laws.
:ohhh: crazy . I had no idea china was strapped like that
 

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because there's no second amendment :yeshrug:

if north koreans were armed like americans, you think kim jong un is still doing the shyt he does to them?

aren't you not allowed to leave north korea? :dead:i don't know, breh. i don't see an armed, self respecting populace putting up with that shyt


Total idiocy that you didn't think through for shyt. 90% of North Korean civilians are so poor they can't even afford their daily calorie needs, but if they had the second amendment, they would magically acquire enough weapons to overthrow the 4th-largest army in the world?

If guns were enough to overthrow a repressive dictator, then why is the al-Asaad family still running Syria after 50 years and counting? Plenty of guns there, plenty of haters of his absolutely brutal regime, the opposition has even had military support from USA, Turkey, and others. Still hasn't been overthrown.

You don't need guns to overthrow a dictator. Milosevic in Serbia, Marcos in Philippines, Mubarak in Egypt, were all taken down with the citizenry needing to arm themselves, not to mention the Revolutions of 1989 that led to the collapse of communist rule in East Germany, Albania, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Mongolia.


The reason that North Korean dictators haven't been overthrown has nothing to do with gun laws.
 

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Culture plays a role as well. Koreans have a collectivist culture that values conformity and group cohesion.

There is a story of how Korean Airlines had a terrible safety problem in the 70s. When they investigated, they found out the root cause was that young pilots could not correct their older colleagues even when they knew decisions being made were wrong even deadly. The language itself did not allow for young people to easily criticize older people. They had to retrain all their pilots to take this into account. They also mandated that English be used when flying to get over the cultural hurdles.
 

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Culture plays a role as well. Koreans have a collectivist culture that values conformity and group cohesion.

There is a story of how Korean Airlines had a terrible safety problem in the 70s. When they investigated, they found out the root cause was that young pilots could not correct their older colleagues even when they knew decisions being made were wrong even deadly. The language itself did not allow for young people to easily criticize older people. They had to retrain all their pilots to take this into account. They also mandated that English be used when flying to get over the cultural hurdles.
but the political experience of south korea has been very different. when they had a military dictatorship it was much more unstable than north korea and had frequent coups. then the dictatorship was overthrown by a popular movement, and since then popular movements have overthrown presidents there. chinese people call being the south korean president the most dangerous job in the world
 

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Total idiocy that you didn't think through for shyt. 90% of North Korean civilians are so poor they can't even afford their daily calorie needs, but if they had the second amendment, they would magically acquire enough weapons to overthrow the 4th-largest army in the world?

If guns were enough to overthrow a repressive dictator, then why is the al-Asaad family still running Syria after 50 years and counting? Plenty of guns there, plenty of haters of his absolutely brutal regime, the opposition has even had military support from USA, Turkey, and others. Still hasn't been overthrown.

You don't need guns to overthrow a dictator. Milosevic in Serbia, Marcos in Philippines, Mubarak in Egypt, were all taken down with the citizenry needing to arm themselves, not to mention the Revolutions of 1989 that led to the collapse of communist rule in East Germany, Albania, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Mongolia.


The reason that North Korean dictators haven't been overthrown has nothing to do with gun laws.
:russell: go change your tampon. jesus

fine, north koreans are just total pussies who are content with being treated like shyt. is that a better answer :mjlol:
 

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:russell: go change your tampon. jesus

fine, north koreans are just total pussies who are content with being treated like shyt. is that a better answer :mjlol:


You have never in your life read a single book on North Korea, probably not even a single article front to back, nor have you any experience with the country or made any attempt to educate yourself in any way. So why even try to pretend like you have the answers? You're just bullshyting from ignorance like you always do.


I'm not an expert either, but from paying significantly more attention than you have, I'd say the main reasons they've stayed in power so effectively are a combination of extreme isolation, extreme repression, and cult of personality. They keep their people completely cut off from the rest of the world both physically and virtually, they kill all their enemies who pose the slightest threat and use labor camps to toss away any citizens who stick their neck up in the slightest, and they have been using a cult of personality for the Kim family since the 1950s that replaces any sort of serious understanding of political options. Most North Koreans don't even know what freedom is, they don't have any way of communicating or plotting with others on a large scale, and the ones who do are rightly terrified as how huge the repercussions would be and how stacked the odds are against them due to those first two factors.


In most countries, something like this would never have been possible. But the unique manner in which North Korea was created (freedom via war from the Empire of Japan after two generations of repression, followed by existential war with South Korea/USA, both of which allowed Kim to build himself up as a nationalistic freedom fighter and hero of the nation) and their unique geographical positioning (stuck on a penninsula between China and South Korea with Japan just offshore) and unique geopolitical position (China is a hugely powerful country who wants the Kims to maintain power, South Korea and Japan are their mortal enemies), gave the Kims certain advantages few dictators have.
 

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but the political experience of south korea has been very different. when they had a military dictatorship it was much more unstable than north korea and had frequent coups. then the dictatorship was overthrown by a popular movement, and since then popular movements have overthrown presidents there. chinese people call being the south korean president the most dangerous job in the world

I took a shot. :yeshrug:
 

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South Korea needs to just take over and have US intervene if China wants that smoke.

NK is depressing as fukk
 

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South Korea needs to just take over and have US intervene if China wants that smoke.

NK is depressing as fukk
the problem is south korea doesn’t want to. after german unification the west german economy took a big hit trying to promote the former east. the gap between those countries was tiny compared to north and south korea.
 
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