Question to the ADOS, "no vote" crowd. Do you not see that this strategy will hurt ADOS?

Rakim Allah

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What do you want them to give us? Someone asked that question earlier and you didn't respond
They owe us Reparations.

Support for Black Small Businesses especially for Black male owned businesses.

Tackle the Black unemployment especially amongst Black males

Black male homelessness

Criminal Sentencing Reform

Mandatory DNA Testing at birth

Family Court Reform

Anti-Hyper Incarceration Policy

Intimate Partner Violence Policy Reform
 
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They owe us Reparations.

Support for Black Small Businesses especially for Black male owned businesses.

Tackle the Black unemployment especially amongst Black males

Black male homelessness

Criminal Sentencing Reform

Mandatory DNA Testing at birth

Family Court Reform

Anti-Hyper Incarceration Policy

Intimate Partner Violence Policy Reform






:gucci:Mandatory DNA testing...

you're a devil

I see that now. Another white boy pretending to be black.

Yall always wind up exposing yourselves :unimpressed:
 

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Hmmm one party gives no fukk about us and is trying to roll back civil rights. The other party isn't giving us reparations but hears us out and have people who give a fukk about our plight. Same thing huh? :snoop:
One tells you right away “Fukk you”.

The other wastes your time before telling you “Fukk you”.

Notice what both parties have in common above. :sas2:
 

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Who will learn their lesson? White democrats? While you succumb to the most overtly racist president in decades, who is tryna destroy the AA community and not even ACKNOWLEDGE our concerns. Is your ultimate goal to start a separate party just for ADOS?


Two people are fighting you. One has a knife and one only has fists. You are a trained fighter.

What do you do?

ANSWER: you deal with the Clear and Present Danger first. Then you stop the one who represents the less pressing immediate threat.

It ain't about you though is it? It's about a large group saying what they mean and doing what they say.

It is self-defeating to vote against Trump this time out and then to forget about the bigger picture.

The entire political structure has to change.


Maybe the progressive posse has something to say? Maybe you need to get grassroots action going - especially in the churches to get people to demand change for their votes.

Trump has already rolled back years of (superficial but partially effective) progress. The courts have already been changed for a generation. Race relations are such that only the extremely self-deluded cannot feel the tug of taking sides . What do you think he is going to do if he gets 4 more years? What do you think that will do to the psyche, condition and day-to-day reality of living in the USA if racists are convinced that they are no longer the minority, that 2016 was not just a mistake and that America supports an unambiguously racist President who has their backs? And there are the knock-on effects both internationally and in international relationships. If Trump shows that overt right-wing racism wins, if the yt population sees improvement Trump might convince successors that his methods are a viable and working option. To stop that you need to cast him out and disgrace him before he establishes a working template of 1890 rules in the 21st century. If Trump shows that his methods work then why wouldn't the yt world internationally follow - with all that that means.

All that is standing between us and slavery/colonialist occupation is the attitude of the common man and those attitudes are being changed by this to make the previously unacceptable more acceptable. Trump winning makes his unacceptable behavior seem more accepted even to those that disagree with him . You do not want that to happen.

Apartheid was just a couple of decades ago so we know what they are capable of. DEMs with their superficially benign self-delusion allowing tactics are not the future either but at least those self-deluded populations will not be on your neck while you are trying to create real change. Well not initially at least.

No point in cutting of your nose to spite your face. US politics is backed by the big bucks and the insouciance + political inertia of the population. Whatever you do it is going to take time and it will take strategy. Creh numbers are declining so use that.

And finally TBA et-al have no answer for this. Getting rid of the DEMs can wait for 4 years (start in Jan 2021). Getting rid of Trump has to be done in Nov (start now) :ufdup:.

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/38978150/
 

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Exactly, and you can't do that firmly within one of the parties giving your vote away unconditionally.

I have lived in South Florida since I was 12. I am now 31. The reason why second and third generation Hispanics might vote republican is because no one can tell the difference between them and white ppl. They get treated as white people. Black Americans do not have that same luxury. We have one party shytting on us and dragging us back to the 1950’s and another who recognize our struggle and are open to helping us advance. We have to vote and show republicans that you will lose almost always until your party actually includes us in your platform. If we do not vote, or vote for some meaningless third party candidate, black causes will never advance.
 

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Two people are fighting you. One has a knife and one only has fists. You are a trained fighter.

What do you do?

ANSWER: you deal with the Clear and Present Danger first. Then you stop the one who represents the less pressing immediate threat.

It ain't about you though is it? It's about a large group saying what they mean and doing what they say.

It is self-defeating to vote against Trump this time out and then to forget about the bigger picture.

The entire political structure has to change.


Maybe the progressive posse has something to say? Maybe you need to get grassroots action going - especially in the churches to get people to demand change for their votes.

Trump has already rolled back years of (superficial but partially effective) progress. The courts have already been changed for a generation. Race relations are such that only the extremely self-deluded cannot feel the tug of taking sides . What do you think he is going to do if he gets 4 more years? What do you think that will do to the psyche, condition and day-to-day reality of living in the USA if racists are convinced that they are no longer the minority, that 2016 was not just a mistake and that America supports an unambiguously racist President who has their backs? And there are the knock-on effects both internationally and in international relationships. If Trump shows that overt right-wing racism wins, if the yt population sees improvement Trump might convince successors that his methods are a viable and working option. To stop that you need to cast him out and disgrace him before he establishes a working template of 1890 rules in the 21st century. If Trump shows that his methods work then why wouldn't the yt world internationally follow - with all that that means.

All that is standing between us and slavery/colonialist occupation is the attitude of the common man and those attitudes are being changed by this to make the previously unacceptable more acceptable. Trump winning makes his unacceptable behavior seem more accepted even to those that disagree with him . You do not want that to happen.

Apartheid was just a couple of decades ago so we know what they are capable of. DEMs with their superficially benign self-delusion allowing tactics are not the future either but at least those self-deluded populations will not be on your neck while you are trying to create real change. Well not initially at least.

No point in cutting of your nose to spite your face. US politics is backed by the big bucks and the insouciance + political inertia of the population. Whatever you do it is going to take time and it will take strategy. Creh numbers are declining so use that.

And finally TBA et-al have no answer for this. Getting rid of the DEMs can wait for 4 years (start in Jan 2021). Getting rid of Trump has to be done in Nov (start now) :ufdup:.

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/38978150/
This is the best case for voting I've seen on the coli
 
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